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Old 04-23-2012, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by CAL500
yes you are correct , with those hulls in 8 to 10 ft seas the best we could maintain is around 50 mph and I can still feel It now. also Brownie is right, Guys like him created this business and these ocean speeds with great boats. I have been lucky to have met them. sonny miller
You may know my father, (Brownie certainly does), he was shop manager for Keith Hazell from the late 70s to the mid 80s. Jason Saris
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Originally Posted by fast fun 2
You may know my father, (Brownie certainly does), he was shop manager for Keith Hazell from the late 70s to the mid 80s. Jason Saris
yes , I met him only briefly at the marina . It was interesting to talk with him. they were among the best guys to deal with at that time. sonny miller thanks
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Old 04-24-2012, 06:59 PM
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Ill tell him you say hi!
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Originally Posted by fast fun 2
You may know my father, (Brownie certainly does), he was shop manager for Keith Hazell from the late 70s to the mid 80s. Jason Saris
Hello Johnny

Think your Dad knows Barron Clancy
Barron was from the Lake George Area and was friends with Keith Hazel. I met him while he was living out in the San Francisco Bay area before he moved to Vero Beach Fl. Barron knew alot of the racers from way back then

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Originally Posted by dammmagnum
Hello Johnny

Think your Dad knows Barron Clancy
Barron was from the Lake George Area and was friends with Keith Hazel. I met him while he was living out in the San Francisco Bay area before he moved to Vero Beach Fl. Barron knew alot of the racers from way back then

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Id be willing to bet he does, Ill mention it when I call him today
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BROWNIE
In the 40's, they went 40. In the 50's, they went 50. In the 60's they went 60 (late in the decade). In the 70's, they went 70. And the beat goes on.........
Interesting....and true.....the curve changed later because in the 80's they broke 125....and in the 90's they broke 160.
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Got a late 1960's race boat. Hope I can get it to do late 60's in a couple weeks.
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T2. Yeah, but it is back on track. 2000 we hit 200, and 2010, we hit 210. Holy s**t.
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It spiked in the Early 80's when Arnesons came out and then they realized they could put a Raised Mercruiser sterndrive on an Extension Box and use it as a Surface Drive. I think now that we have seen a 46' blow over at only 150 (or less) in Key West speeds will not go much faster than the 210's. The data on the "My Way" at the shootout last year said they topped 235 mph, I don't think they'll do that again after seeing the results of KW. (But I Could be wrong, Again )
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Old 04-26-2012, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by fastdonzi
It spiked in the Early 80's when Arnesons came out and then they realized they could put a Raised Mercruiser sterndrive on an Extension Box and use it as a Surface Drive.
Raising Mercruisers was not related to Arneson's intro although the timing was close....MC's were raised because we had been doing it on outboards for decades.... and, of course it worked.

"surfacing props" was a concept in existence long before Howard made his first drawing. He was simply trying to get the power to the surfacing propeller with out a stern drive of any kind...although he basically used a different kind of transom mounted sterndrive to accomplish this. His real accomplishment was reducing parasitic drag in the process. This playing field has gone back and forth ever since between dry sumping M/C's and adopting "fixed" installations on Arneson/BPM/Buzzi adaptations.

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