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legend 09-26-2012 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by lucky strike (Post 3784079)
Isn't a Wellcraft a chopper gun boat.

Some of the fishing, pleasure and newer stuff was but the Scarabs where designed and built by the racing devision. Same complex but different buildings and teams in the 80's. I remember taking the tour when i would go down there for school and they would show us the plant and then walk us over to the racing devision of Scarab and make it clear that the Scarabs where built with more care and better lay-up. Now after my main pine stringers in my dry 38 Excel vanished under the mat roven i wonder about the better lay-up. But still a decent ride for the money if you land off the big one's level. It's all what you want. Speed or a strong design like a kevlar or carbon Top Gun and the light lay-up cats of today. All the big names where good or you could have went the Raven Countach route on saturday and church on Sunday. Everything depends on the mighty dollar.

bertsboat 09-28-2012 10:55 AM

scarab KV for inspection and approval.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200824708855...84.m1555.l2649

befu 09-28-2012 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by bertsboat (Post 3785986)
scarab KV for inspection and approval.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/200824708855...84.m1555.l2649

Not without a triple axle trailer!!!! :lolhit: Your asking for trouble with only two axles.....

I actually splashed a copy of that boat and made a few back in the day, looked great cruising around with trimmer power in back. Ah, memories.... :hijack:

Brian

topprop 10-01-2012 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by way2fast (Post 3778821)
If you were "investing" in a classic flat deck which would you choose? I couldn't decide. Both such classics.
ps sorry couldnt figure out how to start a poll
opinions appreciated.

Both are sexy boats.

Buy the boat you find in the best condition.

All of them need some work.

I know the Cig takes more power than you think to crack 70mph.

I don't know if that is the case with the 38KV?

There is a 35 here in Michigan that is very, very nice. Jim is a member on OSO.

You can see some pics of it in the "old school reunion" threads.

way2fast 10-08-2012 04:52 AM

Thanks toprop good analysis i think I know that boat.
original models which I am after have similar or same drivetrain trannys, engines etc i.e 454 TRS boats
I am super torn between the oldschool charm of the misty especially teak cockpit models
But the iconic and symbolic look of the scarab with its great lines and black race fairing.
I think the cig is a tiny bit more tasteful and classy and the scarab is a tiny bit tacky in an 80's way dont get me wrong i mean in a cool way!

way2fast 10-08-2012 04:53 AM

The cig also seems to have a little bit more of a lower profile when it is sitting in the water no idea just my perception

Full Force 10-08-2012 06:45 AM


Originally Posted by topprop (Post 3787596)
Both are sexy boats.

Buy the boat you find in the best condition.

All of them need some work.

I know the Cig takes more power than you think to crack 70mph.

I don't know if that is the case with the 38KV?

There is a 35 here in Michigan that is very, very nice. Jim is a member on OSO.

You can see some pics of it in the "old school reunion" threads.

which 35??

Full Force 10-08-2012 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by way2fast (Post 3792008)
The cig also seems to have a little bit more of a lower profile when it is sitting in the water no idea just my perception

The Cig has a lower freeboard that I used to not like until I owned my Mistress, I actually LOVE the way it looks and it is not mistaken for any other classic...

I think the flatter deck on the Mistress is much better looking then the raised center on a KV, most Scarabs have the "homo" bolster as I call it, only a couple Mistresses do...

I have not ridden on a KV but I know how the Mistress rides, I was told the Mistress is a tad more solid in big water but I have no proof of that... just what I read...

way2fast 10-08-2012 07:50 AM

Are you referring to where the deck is raised just at the very prow so that the rail slots in cleanly? the whole deck is flat as a pancake...??? Also on the cig is the freeboard lower just at the stern or midships and forward??

Full Force 10-08-2012 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by way2fast (Post 3792056)
Are you referring to where the deck is raised just at the very prow so that the rail slots in cleanly? the whole deck is flat as a pancake...??? Also on the cig is the freeboard lower just at the stern or midships and forward??

The raised part where the bow rail is...a friend has a 38 flatdeck scarab and the center where bow rail is raised some.

The whole free lard is lower on a mistress....I love the way it sits in water...looks sweet


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