mistress or kv scarab
11-30-2012, 08:40 AM
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I've not ridden on a 38kv however I think it's tough for any boat smaller in size to outride a bigger one.
The question is how much boat is enough for when and where you want to use it.
I went from a 38 Bertram CS to a 29 Mirage.....a difference that is apples to pineapples compared to these two boats.
The 38 gave me the opportunity to boat almost anytime I wanted on the Lake where I live. A luxury the Mirage doesn't offer me. However the Mirage is much more economical and easier to dock ( without help ). It requires a much smaller tow vehicle to move it around and it much easier to launch.
I think in a comparison it would be tough for the Mistress to out ride the 38 however maybe you don't need the extra 3 feet where you are going to run it?
Both look to be amazing boats, as I've seen the Cig in person and as a very picky guy I can tell you it's extremely nice. Buy the cleaner nicer boat.......take it from a fellow old boat fan the better condition boat is the better buy.
The question is how much boat is enough for when and where you want to use it.
I went from a 38 Bertram CS to a 29 Mirage.....a difference that is apples to pineapples compared to these two boats.
The 38 gave me the opportunity to boat almost anytime I wanted on the Lake where I live. A luxury the Mirage doesn't offer me. However the Mirage is much more economical and easier to dock ( without help ). It requires a much smaller tow vehicle to move it around and it much easier to launch.
I think in a comparison it would be tough for the Mistress to out ride the 38 however maybe you don't need the extra 3 feet where you are going to run it?
Both look to be amazing boats, as I've seen the Cig in person and as a very picky guy I can tell you it's extremely nice. Buy the cleaner nicer boat.......take it from a fellow old boat fan the better condition boat is the better buy.
11-30-2012, 02:15 PM
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Joe I did the same thing going from a 38' KV to a 29' Mirage, your right much easer to handle & my Mirage was faster with less power than the Scarab. Now that I'm back to a 27' Magnum it's the right hull for me on Lake St Clair. If ever I wanted a larger boat again Jims Lady Of The Lakes Cig would be the boat. Mark
11-30-2012, 02:22 PM
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for sure agree, my mistress is perfect for me, no water keeps me on land, I use it every single weekend and overnight every weekend with my girls and sometimes the 2 dogs...
I know how good the mistress rides, I am told the 38 is basically the same even though its 3 ft longer, I am told the 35 rides better then the 38 Cig, due to COG or somethin g... I have no idea, either way they cant be much different if at all I would assume..I have been on newer stepped 38's, so I cant compare that.. totally different feel overall..
The comment about the nicer boat bein g better.... AMEN.... been there.... sunk WAY too much money into redong my 32 Baja and still was not done...so yes.... go for the better/done boat in my opinion!
I know how good the mistress rides, I am told the 38 is basically the same even though its 3 ft longer, I am told the 35 rides better then the 38 Cig, due to COG or somethin g... I have no idea, either way they cant be much different if at all I would assume..I have been on newer stepped 38's, so I cant compare that.. totally different feel overall..
The comment about the nicer boat bein g better.... AMEN.... been there.... sunk WAY too much money into redong my 32 Baja and still was not done...so yes.... go for the better/done boat in my opinion!
11-30-2012, 03:08 PM
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My buddy went from a Mistress to a gun and told me opposite, guess it all depends... mistress is one heavy azz 35 I know that, thats one thing I like about it, the water does not shove the boat around at all...
11-30-2012, 10:11 PM
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One at the dock
And a pic taken on the first of the 2 happiest days of a boaters life
Can't say much about the mistress either way but I do love my little 28 cig too.
By the way I have become friends with the guy that sold me my Kaama Edition. He was so upset that he sold the boat that 9 months later he went out and bought another one. Here we are out on Barnegat Bay.
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11-30-2012, 10:57 PM
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Yup, I was the one that said that.... those two boats are completely different. The gun runs so light in the bow. It needs trim in the rough.... the mistress was a tank.. Not much trim needed. It was not super fast but it was consistent... I could only imagine what an Apache is like.... In 3 to 4' lake Erie slop it ate it up.. The gun needs a little more work to keep it in the water and get that solid ride...... Keep in mind I dont race and am just happy to keep my pants clean when the waves get bigger than 5 to 6's.....
