I thought Gazell took a Sutphen hull and made a mold from that and...... then designed a new deck for the Viper.

Charlie. I'm pretty sure the Sutphen and the Viper are completely different - especially at the entry. Julio bought the 32 hull mold from New Jersey in 1982. I'm pretty sure that was the Viper hull mold.

Tempest copied a 32' Scorpion.

Yes bombero bought the Viper mold from NJ.

Yes Charlie, Felix Mummolo built the viper mold in Brick Town NJ from a Sutphen hull Gazell traded Richie for a 62 Corvette.
Added 2 feet & changed the deck. There were 11 Viper hulls built. U needed 10 hulls built to qualify for P class.
I believe when Felix's venture failed he then sold the mold and it became a Tempest.
We raced that Viper the APBA & club races that season in 1980. I bought the Blue GA Sutphen & we would take 2 boats to the races.
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Doller Bill was the donor
Both boats in my driveway in Bricktown before the Benihana 1980. We won with the Viper that year

If that's the case then the bow profile was completely changed - for the worse. I know of one death from a Scorpion stuffing. Compana, the late owner of Condor.

Do you have a picture of this boat?

I did... wish I could find it. It's the M-717 boat... NOT the one pictured in PR. It has SSM 2's and small blocks.

I'll post pics of mine shortly. Can't seem to do so from my iPad. I have a "new" 37. New meaning never splashed hull. Been working on in for a few years now. Getting ready to paint in a few months. Set up with #3s on boxes. Low profile race hatches and installing tambour door for the cabin entrance . If someone wants to post he pics I can send them to you via email. Can't seem to do it from my apple device. Would love to show all the progress to date.

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Thanks James. I may have access to the rest this evening on a PC. See how it goes

Did you buy this from Scott? Guild?

Yes. Scott was great to do business with. Got a great deal on it .

I remember when he got that boat. Yes, you got a great deal. Scott is one of my best friends. He's a great guy to do business with.

Would any of you guys know where to find a 24 scorpion at?

Pics of the progress. Floors,
 

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Setting up front seat to position tee nuts in floors. Also sketching out plans for rear beach seats. Keeping the original seat bases. Looks like it's gonna be a stand up bolster.

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Ripped out old carpet for walls and floors.

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New carpet installation.

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Laminate cabinets, interior LED cup holders, LED interior lights. Had a few LED lights left over from the house so we installed them in the boat.

Progress pics 37 scorpion
 

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Work on the engine hatches. Went with a low profile design . Looking for stainless steel mesh for the air Inlets or a honeycomb design. Any ideas ?

My Dad had a 28 Bertram "El Bravo" in a slip right behind Sundays..
I would take girls out there on the weekend,go to the bar ,come back to the boat,,get lucky and never leave the slip..Those were the days..

Scorpion 37 progress pics
 

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Dash panel. We made this out of plexiglass. Fitting it up to ensure it fits as we sand and shape the dash. Next week the Tambour door comes in from Tap-ease. Will be interesting to fabricate tracks and jigs to fit it in the roof. See how it goes.....

Humberto( Carrera) made a lot more 24s than Julio did..
The boats were identical except for the color of the bilge..
(If I remember right Julio used red) :)
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Why are you making the hatches out of wood (To be glassed over I guess) They look pretty good. I would think with your abilities you would just make a set of one-off molds and lay up with a minimal core. Would net you a 1/3 the weight. As far as the vents, I would use sheet aluminum 3/16, punch your vent holes or slots and powdercoat.

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Good idea. I'm still learning techniques on laying up. Living in the islands resources to new technology and knowledge is limited. Another reason why OSO is irreplaceable. The base and sides are 3/4" the top is 1/4". Laid up in bi axle. It's not heaven at all. It's about 30-45 lbs per side. I'll out a pics of what I'm thinking for the vents

I like how stable and consistent the 32 handles. More videos please :-)

What are you guys thoughts on a highly reliable engine package. The 37 has #3s on boxes. I would like to cruise around 65-70. Reliably

My 37' Midnight did 70 all day long with HP 500's. I would think it's heavier than your 37. The tradeoff being that you are running though transmissions and SSM's. I had Bravos on mine. Still 65 should be attainable with this power.

I like that boat a lot. I remember it on ebay i think. Hell of a deal!

You could do that same work with some Coosa Board and like Todd said, you'd save 2/3 the weight and have very stiff, Light hatches that wont rot. You did nice work there !! Keep it Up :)

True. The midnight is heavier. I want to run at 3500-4000. Was thinking on a pair of 540s aspirated or stroked 502s. We also had a convo with joe corretti on a pair of 800s. Running in salt water obviously, so Heat Exchangers are also a must.

The vents on my Mirage 32 (Armed and Dangerous)

For vents, see post #128/129 on page 5 of this threat.
Actually, this thread is one of the nicest rehabs I've ever seen done.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...project-5.html

Storm i think you meant this page:ernaehrung004:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...roject-13.html

Well, I was trying to show close up pics of the vents.

Prepping the cabin entrance to mock up the tambour doors. They arrive on Monday. Will be an interesting installation.

Hi Guilderoy,

Your boat is looking great ! It looks like she is starting to really take shape! Keep up the good work.

It looks like you do this for a living -