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Originally Posted by lucky strike
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Charlie. I'm pretty sure the Sutphen and the Viper are completely different - especially at the entry. Julio bought the 32 hull mold from New Jersey in 1982. I'm pretty sure that was the Viper hull mold.
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Originally Posted by MidOcean
(Post 4250630)
Charlie. I'm pretty sure the Sutphen and the Viper are completely different - especially at the entry. Julio bought the 32 hull mold from New Jersey in 1982. I'm pretty sure that was the Viper hull mold.
Tempest copied a 32' Scorpion. |
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
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I thought Gazell took a Sutphen hull and made a mold from that and...... then designed a new deck for the Viper.
Added 2 feet & changed the deck. There were 11 Viper hulls built. U needed 10 hulls built to qualify for P class. I believe when Felix's venture failed he then sold the mold and it became a Tempest. We raced that Viper the APBA & club races that season in 1980. I bought the Blue GA Sutphen & we would take 2 boats to the races. If it was rough we used the viper. Better in the rough water. Calm races the Sutphen was 3 mph faster.[ATTACH=CONFIG]535753[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]535754[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]535755[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]535756[/ATTACH] Doller Bill was the donor Both boats in my driveway in Bricktown before the Benihana 1980. We won with the Viper that year |
Originally Posted by lucky strike
(Post 4250688)
Yes Charlie, Felix Mummolo built the viper mold in Brick Town NJ from a Sutphen hull Gazell traded Richie for a 62 Corvette.
Added 2 feet & changed the deck. There were 11 Viper hulls built. U needed 10 hulls built to qualify for P class. I believe when Felix's venture failed he then sold the mold and it became a Tempest. We raced that Viper the APBA & club races that season in 1980. I bought the Blue GA Sutphen & we would take 2 boats to the races. If it was rough we used the viper. Better in the rough water. Calm races the Sutphen was 3 mph faster. Doller Bill was the donor Both boats in my driveway in Bricktown before the Benihana 1980. We won with the Viper that year |
Originally Posted by MidOcean
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If that's the case then the bow profile was completely changed - for the worse. I know of one death from a Scorpion stuffing. Compana, the late owner of Condor.
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I did... wish I could find it. It's the M-717 boat... NOT the one pictured in PR. It has SSM 2's and small blocks.
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I'll post pics of mine shortly. Can't seem to do so from my iPad. I have a "new" 37. New meaning never splashed hull. Been working on in for a few years now. Getting ready to paint in a few months. Set up with #3s on boxes. Low profile race hatches and installing tambour door for the cabin entrance . If someone wants to post he pics I can send them to you via email. Can't seem to do it from my apple device. Would love to show all the progress to date.
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Originally Posted by guilderoy
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I'll post pics of mine shortly. Can't seem to do so from my iPad. I have a "new" 37. New meaning never splashed hull. Been working on in for a few years now. Getting ready to paint in a few months. Set up with #3s on boxes. Low profile race hatches and installing tambour door for the cabin entrance . If someone wants to post he pics I can send them to you via email. Can't seem to do it from my apple device. Would love to show all the progress to date.
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Thanks James. I may have access to the rest this evening on a PC. See how it goes
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