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rak rua 12-05-2015 08:54 PM

What will be the next 'classic' in say, 2030?
 
Just reading a new thread about one of the Miami Vice Scarabs that's changed hands and is about to get a beautiful restoration and it got me thinking........If the early owners had known their boat would one day become a collectible, would they have let the condition deteriorate?

Asking you knowledgeable members to have a wild guess at what will be considered classics in 15 or 20 years time?

Boats that are considered classic now will always be classics but is there anything built this century that will one day garner the appeal of an old Cig or a MV Scarab or do manufacturers just churn out the same thing day after day?

RR

ham_r_down01 12-05-2015 09:43 PM

I'm sure it will be some sort of center console. :rolleyes:

Griff 12-06-2015 01:06 AM

Big difference between collectible and valuable. I love the boat and its history and can't wait to see the restoration.

But.......the restoration costs will far out way what the boat's real market value will ever be.

phughes69 12-07-2015 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4382646)
Just reading a new thread about one of the Miami Vice Scarabs that's changed hands and is about to get a beautiful restoration and it got me thinking........If the early owners had known their boat would one day become a collectible, would they have let the condition deteriorate?

Asking you knowledgeable members to have a wild guess at what will be considered classics in 15 or 20 years time?

Boats that are considered classic now will always be classics but is there anything built this century that will one day garner the appeal of an old Cig or a MV Scarab or do manufacturers just churn out the same thing day after day?

RR

rak rua, I was kinda wondering the same thing when I asked this question about old rare boats.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...aros-like.html
If you go back to the mid 80's and look at the rare cars, now the Grand Nationals are considered rare, Monte Carlo SS, the 90's gave us the more Camaro's until the LS powered cars came along in the 2000's and beyond. . As far as boats go I dont think there will be a "classic" in 2030. Boats like your talking in the 80's and 90's were much more obtainable than they are today. Plus there were more manufactures of them that today. A 1985 38' Cigarette was in the $200,000 range which translates into $400,000 in today's dollars. A brand new 2015 Cigarette 38' is in the price range of $600,000. So I'm not sure about you but I don't have $600,000 lying around to buy a boat. Also factor in that there are no cool shows on TV right now that feature boats. I think for something to be a classic there needs to be a bunch of people that Ooooo and Ahhhh over it and most of the mindless people watching TV just want to see who the next singing sensation is or see who got voted off the island. Miami Vice was a perfect formula that fit the atmosphere of the country at that time. Hot women, Hot boats, plenty of excesses, plenty of drugs. Now we have people who are afraid of everything and want to be PC. Its just a different world now.

rak rua 12-07-2015 08:12 PM

Pretty much agree phuges, with all the different manufacturers and the more affordable costs, classics were just going to be created without insight at the time. A huge tv hit certainly helps! ham_r_down said (a little sarcastically) a center console. Maybe a 'Baywatch edition'. Didn't have Crocket and Tubbs but we did have Pammy and the Hoff! Lol.

I had wondered about two recent boats, both only had small production runs but I'm sure the molds are in hiding somewhere....

Cigarette 30' 'Vice' from around 2006 and Fountain 33' Lightning around 2009. The Cig is the last of their sub-38' boats to have been made (correct me if I'm wrong) and the Lightning is one of the first to have the all new interior and also the last new model before Reggie departed the scene. Similar size boats, excellent pedigree, run well on stock power, manageable size and perhaps the last affordable go fast boats before the new era of CC's and outboards.

Both boats were born from two racing legends and I for one, would love to have either of them in my garage. I need to dump my current boat first and I'm not interested because I think they could be popular in 15 years time (I'm not that stupid) I just happen to like them both and what they stand for.

RR

ham_r_down01 12-09-2015 07:45 AM

I would also love to have a vice. They are rare yes? Not sure on a number. They are quality built by their manufacturers. The 38' is kinda big for my particular situation, not that wouldn't love one of them either. I go out by myself for a stress relief run. Easier to dock and trailer alone.

I could see them holding their value over time.

h2oboater 12-09-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ham_r_down01 (Post 4383670)
I would also love to have a vice. They are rare yes? Not sure on a number. They are quality built by their manufacturers. The 38' is kinda big for my particular situation, not that wouldn't love one of them either. I go out by myself for a stress relief run. Easier to dock and trailer alone.

I could see them holding their value over time.

I had a Wellcraft 38' Kv Scarab years ago the quality overall was not quite the same as a Larry Smith Scarab. I found the Scarab was a handful as to it's size to dock, trailer & operate by myself, after around ten years of ownership I sold it & downsized first to a 29' Mirage than a 27' Magnum sport & have no regrets.

johnmiffco 12-09-2015 10:59 AM

in 2030 any boat with a gasoline motor will be considered a classic
ohh wait gasoline is gone already
alcy additive at pump today is called fuel
Mercedes already has built a sls amg electric drive 38' cigarette concept boat
2,220 electric hp
so what will a boat be runnin on in 2030

ham_r_down01 12-09-2015 11:39 AM

More corn than oil. Lol

ham_r_down01 12-09-2015 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 4383718)
I had a Wellcraft 38' Kv Scarab years ago the quality overall was not quite the same as a Larry Smith Scarab. I found the Scarab was a handful as to it's size to dock, trailer & operate by myself, after around ten years of ownership I sold it & downsized first to a 29' Mirage than a 27' Magnum sport & have no regrets.

I love my 28ss. It's kinda tight for overnight, but I've done it. Headroom wise. I think there was only one day this year I couldn't go out on it. But there wasn't anyone out on those days. I loved your guys Maggie's at the osr. Plan on being there next year. Not sure if I'll be on the cig or not. Got some work to do to her.

I think a classic is an old hot rod, that does what it was designed to do, and still does it like it did. Quality and performance make the collectibility. IMHO. I like originality, but tasteful keeping up with times on a classic is perfectly acceptable.


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