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Old 08-09-2020, 02:12 PM
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Looks like GoFast is gone...............mess with the bull you get the horns
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Looks like GoFast is gone...............mess with the bull you get the horns
He didnít go out like a b!tch though. Looking forward to receiving my copy.
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Originally Posted by Griff View Post
And 98% of those people should not be free either. Look at the nationwide prisoner recidivism rates. https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=6266

Harvey Weinstein is 68 years old, Jeffrey Epstein was 67 years old, Bernie Madhoff was 70 when he was caught.............were they not a threat to anyone?????
Those people have been free Until those ages. Not locked up for 30+ years and looking to get out at those ages. This isn't the 80's. Plus, I believe his smuggling co-conspirators are out of jail.
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Old 09-16-2020, 11:43 AM
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He didnít go out like a b!tch though. Looking forward to receiving my copy.
This guy has really got some interesting stuff going on. The group he has created on Facebook, and the ongoing interviews with folks we ALL want to hear from.... its GREAT. Its better than great, I'm overjoyed! Such a disappointment to lose the info and APACHE threads that were lost here years ago.
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Kramer is in jail for money laundering proceeds from the sale of marijuana. I realize he also pled guilty to the murder of Don Aronow to either, change prisons or maybe he did have something to do with it?....I don't think he did but that doesn't matter. If they released him in Michigan he could return to the pot business and be 100% legal. Leaving the concern would he kill/have killed anyone? I don't think he would. 32 years is a long time I think he's paid his tab.
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Originally Posted by Griff View Post
And 98% of those people should not be free either. Look at the nationwide prisoner recidivism rates. https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=6266

Harvey Weinstein is 68 years old, Jeffrey Epstein was 67 years old, Bernie Madhoff was 70 when he was caught.............were they not a threat to anyone?????
The first two are perverts like a former state trooper on this site. I think the trooper got less than 6 months plus his retirement.

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Most of us have very fond memories of those 'Miami Vice' days...the boats, the cars, the lifestyle. Definitely a period no one will forget.

As for Kramer's sentence...one has to wonder how these things are done. Heck, watch episodes of 'Forensic Files' and it even more baffling how it all works. For example, one guy rapes, kills, and dismembers multiple women and gets a sentence of 20 to life, but is out in 12 years. Another guy kills someone with much less prejudice and gets life without parole?

It's all jacked up.
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Skin Color??
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Skin Color??
seriously. You a Blm tool?

let me ask you why do all bi racial people identify as black? Because white privilege doesnít exist.
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