transom ?
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2.75 thick transom - stock bravo transom assembly and stock inner plate installed --- one could not install the nyloc nuts properly on the studs.
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I can say even for mass production rec boats as many have gone all composite. one vibration is felt more and depending on production power one can feel some flex, also noise levels are louder, ie waves slapping, engine transmitting noise thru basically the hull cavities. Some of the composite lay ups seem hollow to me.
Wood dampens vibrations, seems better for sound deadening, wood floats, would holds screws better, so it does have some positive factors.
Wood dampens vibrations, seems better for sound deadening, wood floats, would holds screws better, so it does have some positive factors.
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Now I feel bad about having the transom filled with coosa. But I am hoping that the experiences you have had are with another type of coosa meaning not a solid 2 inch thick piece maybe 3 layers of 1/2 inch coosa board?I have 2 in solid with 4 layers of glass behind the coosa to stick it a.But if this is a mistake it is better for me to pay more to have the work re done.This is sad because I listened to someone say this was the way to go , someone who supposedly knows and more Fiberglas on the front side.
everyone on this forum thinks coosa is good for transoms
https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating...osities-2.html
Also I heard that formula and Outerlimits uses coosa in the transoms from the factory
everyone on this forum thinks coosa is good for transoms
https://www.thehulltruth.com/boating...osities-2.html
Also I heard that formula and Outerlimits uses coosa in the transoms from the factory
Last edited by turbos230; 02-25-2018 at 12:55 AM.
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Now I feel bad about having the transom filled with coosa. But I am hoping that the experiences you have had are with another type of coosa meaning not a solid 2 inch thick piece maybe 3 layers of 1/2 inch coosa board?I have 2 in solid with 4 layers of glass behind the coosa to stick it a.But if this is a mistake it is better for me to pay more to have the work re done.This is sad because I listened to someone say this was the way to go , someone who supposedly knows and more Fiberglas on the front side.
everyone on this forum thinks coosa is good for transoms
225755-pro-s-cons-coosa-composities-2.html
Also I heard that formula and Outerlimits uses coosa in the transoms from the factory
everyone on this forum thinks coosa is good for transoms
225755-pro-s-cons-coosa-composities-2.html
Also I heard that formula and Outerlimits uses coosa in the transoms from the factory

most factories do use it now and its the only way to go in this day and age in new boats. For my application and for how we run these things (or how i do anyways lol) i still prefer three layers of half. The other thing a lot of guys dont realize when doing stringers in composite is you can no longer just through bolt engine mounts. You have to "shoulder" the mount somehow to take the shear load off the bolts. They will oval and shift quickly in the rough water offshore environment.
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for Mercruiser ? and using a STOCK bravo OEM transom assembly with stock mounting stud lengths ? Basically anything 2.5 and up for transom thickness, the stock installed studs would be too short - one would have to install longer ones in a stock Bravo / Alpha transom assembly. And with any thicker transom, if the stock exhaust Y pipe was used, that would throw all that out of placement as well.
Info from OEM Mercruiser engine installation guide for Bravo and its the same for alpha's. I had to search for this info as how I could post it up here on oso. Its fairly current info below in the link..
Just saying - Back in the day we would have to install in new boat lines engine(s) & drive packages. New hulls without the transom even cut as the dealers picked what engine packages were going in from Mercruiser - OMC - VOLVO - Yamaha - sterndrives.
https://forums.iboats.com/filedata/fetch?id=7077691
Info from OEM Mercruiser engine installation guide for Bravo and its the same for alpha's. I had to search for this info as how I could post it up here on oso. Its fairly current info below in the link..
Just saying - Back in the day we would have to install in new boat lines engine(s) & drive packages. New hulls without the transom even cut as the dealers picked what engine packages were going in from Mercruiser - OMC - VOLVO - Yamaha - sterndrives.
https://forums.iboats.com/filedata/fetch?id=7077691
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Well that sounds better if it the boat can still be usable.But I appreciate your help and comments because there are not many sources with good information and less about performance boats.
I want to make sure with you,The boat is with 4 layers of glass starting at the back where the ground down fiberglass skin is and there is a 2 inch board of coosa and then there will be another 4 layers of glas hopefully will be about 2.5 thick.The drives are #6 dry sump

I want to make sure with you,The boat is with 4 layers of glass starting at the back where the ground down fiberglass skin is and there is a 2 inch board of coosa and then there will be another 4 layers of glas hopefully will be about 2.5 thick.The drives are #6 dry sump

Last edited by turbos230; 02-25-2018 at 04:24 PM.
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Well that sounds better if it the boat can still be usable.But I appreciate your help and comments because there are not many sources with good information and less about performance boats.
I want to make sure with you,The boat is with 4 layers of glass starting at the back where the ground down fiberglass skin is and there is a 2 inch board of coosa and then there will be another 4 layers of glas hopefully will be about 2.5 thick.The drives are #6 dry sump
I want to make sure with you,The boat is with 4 layers of glass starting at the back where the ground down fiberglass skin is and there is a 2 inch board of coosa and then there will be another 4 layers of glas hopefully will be about 2.5 thick.The drives are #6 dry sump
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I'm going to add this for composite vs wood. Long ago, or so it seems, I was a manufactures rep in the ski/snowboard industry. At the time I worked for Atomic Snowboards. We used a wood core in all of our boards. At the time Rossignol started using the THC core. This was a foam core with Kevlar and carbon in it, very similar to Coosa board. For the average person this core would work just fine. I myself hated it, it felt dead and un-responsive, but it was a little lighter. Put this same core under an olympic athlete, and good luck. When Bode Miller went from Fisher to Rossignol he was snapping ski's. I don't think he was able to finish a run with out the skis breaking, I believe in the end, they ended up getting him wood cored skis. That was the last year he used Rossignol, the next year he was back to wood core skis and Atomic.
As Dave has said, composite has its place, but high performance, high load is not one. Wood is made to flex and hold its strength, it is a tree after all. Foam cannot take constant flexing and hold up, and least none that I've seen.
As Dave has said, composite has its place, but high performance, high load is not one. Wood is made to flex and hold its strength, it is a tree after all. Foam cannot take constant flexing and hold up, and least none that I've seen.



