Hydraulic steering
02-10-2009 | 10:42 AM
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I've got manual hydraulic on both of my boats.
The helm is basically a 2-way bi-directional fluid pump that uses a steering wheel instead of a motor. Resevoir is in the pump(helm). 2 hydraulic lines run to the back rams. If you have one ram easy. If you have 2 rams, the push on port side is tee's to the pull on the starboard side and vice versa.
There is no feedback from the drive. You can litterally jump waves sans' hands on wheel. (not recommended).
My 18' Donzi works great with it. The 24' boat works great till over 70; then the arms get a workout.
I would say very safe if hydraulic lines are good shape. The slighty stiffer and no feedback help from accidentally turning too quick.
The helm is basically a 2-way bi-directional fluid pump that uses a steering wheel instead of a motor. Resevoir is in the pump(helm). 2 hydraulic lines run to the back rams. If you have one ram easy. If you have 2 rams, the push on port side is tee's to the pull on the starboard side and vice versa.
There is no feedback from the drive. You can litterally jump waves sans' hands on wheel. (not recommended).
My 18' Donzi works great with it. The 24' boat works great till over 70; then the arms get a workout.
I would say very safe if hydraulic lines are good shape. The slighty stiffer and no feedback help from accidentally turning too quick.
02-10-2009 | 10:59 AM
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Hyd steering
Many types exist.
Most I/o applications have a pump behind the wheel and use what amounts to a power steering pump driven off the engine to multiply the pressure to the rams. This works beautifully.
Should the engine die you can still steer, but its workout time.
It is a real pain in the A on older carbed blower rigs that dont want to idle after a hard run and tend to to die when jockying in and out of gear while docking.
Ive seen many Hynautic setups on outboat apps only use this one pump - and at docking speed you can really get a workout.
Uncle Dave
Most I/o applications have a pump behind the wheel and use what amounts to a power steering pump driven off the engine to multiply the pressure to the rams. This works beautifully.
Should the engine die you can still steer, but its workout time.
It is a real pain in the A on older carbed blower rigs that dont want to idle after a hard run and tend to to die when jockying in and out of gear while docking.
Ive seen many Hynautic setups on outboat apps only use this one pump - and at docking speed you can really get a workout.
Uncle Dave
02-10-2009 | 10:29 PM
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I've got manual hydraulic on both of my boats.
The helm is basically a 2-way bi-directional fluid pump that uses a steering wheel instead of a motor. Resevoir is in the pump(helm). 2 hydraulic lines run to the back rams. If you have one ram easy. If you have 2 rams, the push on port side is tee's to the pull on the starboard side and vice versa.
There is no feedback from the drive. You can litterally jump waves sans' hands on wheel. (not recommended).
My 18' Donzi works great with it. The 24' boat works great till over 70; then the arms get a workout.
I would say very safe if hydraulic lines are good shape. The slighty stiffer and no feedback help from accidentally turning too quick.
The helm is basically a 2-way bi-directional fluid pump that uses a steering wheel instead of a motor. Resevoir is in the pump(helm). 2 hydraulic lines run to the back rams. If you have one ram easy. If you have 2 rams, the push on port side is tee's to the pull on the starboard side and vice versa.
There is no feedback from the drive. You can litterally jump waves sans' hands on wheel. (not recommended).
My 18' Donzi works great with it. The 24' boat works great till over 70; then the arms get a workout.
I would say very safe if hydraulic lines are good shape. The slighty stiffer and no feedback help from accidentally turning too quick.
The reason I'm interested is I'd love to do away with the p/s pump on my Stinger 222 and just run manual. It's plumbed with the full IMCO hyd helm all the way back to the single ram with in out and rtn lines for teh p/s pump at the moment. If I was to ditch the p/s pump, how would I plumb it? (what goes where?) I just figure if I don't need something, why have it?
02-11-2009 | 02:31 PM
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The reason I'm interested is I'd love to do away with the p/s pump on my Stinger 222 and just run manual. It's plumbed with the full IMCO hyd helm all the way back to the single ram with in out and rtn lines for teh p/s pump at the moment. If I was to ditch the p/s pump, how would I plumb it? (what goes where?) I just figure if I don't need something, why have it?
Simple and less things to go wrong; I agree. The helm you have for power steering will not work well if you take out the pump. Take the belt off of your PS and see for yourself while on the trailer. You can change the helm unit to one that is set for manual (No Power Pump). Capalano has one, as well as a few others. You would need to make sure the volume is enough to cover 2 rams.
On my small Donzi I have a Hynautic helm, pushing a single IMCO ram. On the 24' boat with 2 rams I have a much larger helm similar to the Capilano in the picture. Kent
02-11-2009 | 02:40 PM
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The reason I'm interested is I'd love to do away with the p/s pump on my Stinger 222 and just run manual. It's plumbed with the full IMCO hyd helm all the way back to the single ram with in out and rtn lines for teh p/s pump at the moment. If I was to ditch the p/s pump, how would I plumb it? (what goes where?) I just figure if I don't need something, why have it?
Simple and less things to go wrong; I agree. The helm you have for power steering will not work well if you take out the pump. Take the belt off of your PS and see for yourself while on the trailer. You can change the helm unit to one that is set for manual (No Power Pump). Capalano has one, as well as a few others. You would need to make sure the volume is enough to cover 2 rams.
On my small Donzi I have a Hynautic helm, pushing a single IMCO ram. On the 24' boat with 2 rams I have a much larger helm similar to the Capilano in the picture. Kent
02-11-2009 | 09:58 PM
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It has a pressurized reservoir !!!!!! its easyer then cable steering but tuffer then pump assist steering .
It has a return line and everything like a new Hyd. steering just without the pump ,,therefor u got a press fill valve on the res. where u add air press with a compr. like on a tire and its good to go ,,,u may need to fill press once a year !!!
Raceboats had it back in the days ,,,so i don't think its going to be unsafe at all!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bet u can add a pump aswell and get rit of the reservoir ??!!
It has a return line and everything like a new Hyd. steering just without the pump ,,therefor u got a press fill valve on the res. where u add air press with a compr. like on a tire and its good to go ,,,u may need to fill press once a year !!!
Raceboats had it back in the days ,,,so i don't think its going to be unsafe at all!!!!!!!!!!!!
I bet u can add a pump aswell and get rit of the reservoir ??!!
Scott, thats exactly the way your boat was originally set up, and we always raced it that way. I can assure you, it's not easier than cable. LOL !!
02-11-2009 | 11:10 PM
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Good thing it has full hydraulic now !!
Hope to see u soon ,, go to my website and check the race schedule so u know when i am close to u,,,,i sometimes even get lost in FL. LOL
02-13-2009 | 06:20 PM
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Daredevil how is the boating around Anna Marie Island? We usually go to Destin but are thinking of going to Anna in June. Is the water clear and blue like Destin with the white beaches? Are there a lot of small sand islands to go to that are secluded?
