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38fountained 01-09-2019 07:14 PM

Resolved
 
Hey guys, replaced the cam sensor and back fire is gone, next problem; replaced IAC, won’t cease ops and cuts out engine when idle or close. Just fine in high power....

38fountained 01-24-2019 10:34 AM

Crank shaft sensor
 
hey guys, any cross reference for crank shaft sensor like the automotive IAC for the Merc 496? $330 pretty steep for a quick silver....

boatnt 01-24-2019 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by 38fountained (Post 4669544)
hey guys, any cross reference for crank shaft sensor like the automotive IAC for the Merc 496? $330 pretty steep for a quick silver....

GM 8.1L crank sensor for a lot less

BUP 01-24-2019 11:03 AM

have them for 160 shipped. Same exact Merc uses - Not knowing your engine serial number yours possible changed. And I will be in Florida working on boats next month and even a couple of 496 s .

38fountained 01-24-2019 11:25 AM

BUP, verify stock GM 8.1 automotive not the same and could be causing me problems. Mine has number that does not match .......

boatnt 01-24-2019 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by 38fountained (Post 4669558)
BUP, verify stock GM 8.1 automotive not the same and could be causing me problems. Mine has number that does not match .......

Of course it’s not gonna be the same part number , GM 8.1 you are getting a AC Delco number not the MerCruiser number but it’s the same sensor, now by whatever makes you comfortable,

No difference in the automotive IAC that people have been using not the same number as MerCruiser either

BUP 01-24-2019 12:54 PM

to set the record straight not all aftermarket crossover IAC's work as they should per PWM matching what MERC has installed And for the record I can prove all of this first hand on twin engine scan reports just by same day changing the IAC s and gaskets out from Standard motor products and BWD to what Merc is selling for IAC they use.. Anyone what to take that bet ? because I have the sameday scan reports from idle to WOT of the differences of the PWM between the IACs. You are going to be surprise at the difference between the PWM s. Apples to Apples testing. Plus how many people up here have I told to try the IAC merc uses and they reported their running issues cleared up completely.

I have many OEM IAC s as well for way less plus the proper info and proper related parts that need to be installed on top of.

For the crank sensor the early version were RIBBED versions and are NLA they went to a NON ribbed version. Like I said I have them that are the same as MERC .

BUP 01-24-2019 01:09 PM

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...rges-idle.html

the link above is one about switching to the IAC Merc uses - yep 60 bucks more he had to pay but like I said the aftermarket cheaper IACs do not exactly work out alot of the times. Really do not care if you think im wrong cause If I have to Ill post the testing results i did for the day all about this and the difference PWM results from one IAC to another to what MERC uses, I was even shocked at the different parameters when scanning

boatnt 01-25-2019 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4669582)
to set the record straight not all aftermarket crossover IAC's work as they should per PWM matching what MERC has installed And for the record I can prove all of this first hand on twin engine scan reports just by same day changing the IAC s and gaskets out from Standard motor products and BWD to what Merc is selling for IAC they use.. Anyone what to take that bet ? because I have the sameday scan reports from idle to WOT of the differences of the PWM between the IACs. You are going to be surprise at the difference between the PWM s. Apples to Apples testing. Plus how many people up here have I told to try the IAC merc uses and they reported their running issues cleared up completely.

I have many OEM IAC s as well for way less plus the proper info and proper related parts that need to be installed on top of.

For the crank sensor the early version were RIBBED versions and are NLA they went to a NON ribbed version. Like I said I have them that are the same as MERC .

I am not talking about the IAC, The IAC is a 2 wire(PWM) pulse width modulated valve ,They might look the same but yes the resistance values are different,

I was just answering his question of a replacement Crank sensor,Those as you know work differently what matters is the air gap between the reluctor and the sensor, the reluctor is the same in the Marine and auto applications because it’s the same crankshaft the sensor is a three wire sensor ,a sensor signal, a 12 V and a low reference wire, so as long as the gap between the reluctor and the sensor are the same it’s the same sensor and yes GMs Crank sensors are also a NON ribbed single O ring design to help eliminate them from sticking in the block.

And not really interested in taking a bet if you were referring to me, just trying to help out

Keith Atlanta 01-25-2019 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4669582)
to set the record straight not all aftermarket crossover IAC's work as they should per PWM matching what MERC has installed And for the record I can prove all of this first hand on twin engine scan reports just by same day changing the IAC s and gaskets out from Standard motor products and BWD to what Merc is selling for IAC they use.. Anyone what to take that bet ?

Yeah, thats very true. Store bought IAC from Autozone and the like never worked on my496/8.1 Raylar 600's. They caused a lot of crazy issues.


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