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Zole 07-10-2022 11:44 PM


Originally Posted by mcollinstn (Post 4837886)
There honestly is no reason to chase ghosts here. Don't throw parts at a problem until you have isolated the problem.

It has been established that your needles and seats are .120", so there is no reason to point at those as a restriction

You have told us that your WOT fuel line pressure (measured before the fuel line enters the box) is 12 psi and your WOT boost pressure (measured in the intake manifold) is around 6 psi.

As long as your fuel pressure STAYS above (boost psi + 6 psi) then you are NOT experiencing fuel system inadequacies.

Run WOT. Constantly watch the boost pressure and fuel pressure. Whenever the motor feels like it is starving for fuel, TAKE NOTE of those pressures AT THAT TIME.

If the fuel pressure remains steady and doesn't drop as you experience the "starving" issue, then you DO NOT have a problem with fuel supply.

You MUST get this test out of the way and behind you before you know where to focus next.

It may not be a fuel starvation problem at all.
You could have heat-soak which may be triggering ignition detonation. You may have a weak coil or ignition module which loses output when it heats up (under boost at prolonged max revs).

Good morning Mcollinstn...dont get me wrong i'll follow your directions to the letter...take notes and everything yust as you told me.The reason im asking is all of you guys told me my distributer is cheap s***...As it turns aut that my frend burnd aut his engine now i have a chance to get my hands on a normal distributer so that is why i asked..Im yust thinking ahead because i dont have a lot of spare parts here...thank you

Zole 07-11-2022 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by mcollinstn (Post 4837886)
There honestly is no reason to chase ghosts here. Don't throw parts at a problem until you have isolated the problem.

It has been established that your needles and seats are .120", so there is no reason to point at those as a restriction

You have told us that your WOT fuel line pressure (measured before the fuel line enters the box) is 12 psi and your WOT boost pressure (measured in the intake manifold) is around 6 psi.

As long as your fuel pressure STAYS above (boost psi + 6 psi) then you are NOT experiencing fuel system inadequacies.

Run WOT. Constantly watch the boost pressure and fuel pressure. Whenever the motor feels like it is starving for fuel, TAKE NOTE of those pressures AT THAT TIME.

If the fuel pressure remains steady and doesn't drop as you experience the "starving" issue, then you DO NOT have a problem with fuel supply.

You MUST get this test out of the way and behind you before you know where to focus next.

It may not be a fuel starvation problem at all.
You could have heat-soak which may be triggering ignition detonation. You may have a weak coil or ignition module which loses output when it heats up (under boost at prolonged max revs).

So here is the latest update...Just this morning i started to check my fuel problems and i ended up with problems at my cilinder number 6...The spark plug broke and made a mess...here are the pic..
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1437cc1164.jpg
so RIP my 502:picard1:

SB 07-11-2022 05:18 AM

Bummer.
something else broke (piston probably…maybe valve) , which broke your spark plug.

Zole 07-11-2022 06:06 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4837917)
Bummer.
something else broke (piston probably…maybe valve) , which broke your spark plug.

Good morning profesor:)...I checked the compresion after this it was 120 psi..My exoust was geting very very hot before this happend steam was going aut...water flow was good new exoust pipes are on the engine new impeler all was good...What could couse the exoust to get that hot(wrong timing or valves)?

SB 07-11-2022 07:33 AM

That spark plug appears to have longer reach than what oe cast iron heads use. (.460”) What heads do you have ?

this is what they should look like with factory cast iron heads:


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3b50a8c38.jpeg

Zole 07-11-2022 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4837939)
That spark plug appears to have longer reach than what oe cast iron heads use. (.460”) What heads do you have ?

this is what they should look like with factory cast iron heads:


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3b50a8c38.jpeg

I'll send pictures...
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...93f199d9f6.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...971f41a40a.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b802883133.jpg
On one head writes GM 3 and on a nother GM 1

SB 07-11-2022 08:09 AM

Okay. Oem GenV cast iron rectangular port heads. Should be using a typical .460” reach 14mm thread tapered seat plug.

Being supercharged, i’d run an acdelco mr42t or equivalent.

Possible that those extra long spark plugs you used caused preignition. You could have other tuning issues too, but this is a serious problem.

Zole 07-11-2022 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4837947)
Okay. Oem GenV cast iron rectangular port heads. Should be using a typical .406” reach 14mm thread tapered seat plug.

Being supercharged, i’d run an acdelco mr42t or equivalent.

Possible that those extra long spark plugs you used caused preignition. You could have other tuning issues too, but this is a serious problem.

Is there a differenc beetwen GM1 and GM3 regarding sparkplugs....Cilindar that died has a GM1 head

SB 07-11-2022 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by Zole (Post 4837958)
Is there a differenc beetwen GM1 and GM3 regarding sparkplugs....Cilindar that died has a GM1 head


Those are just which patern # thst was used (in the Saginaw foundry i believe) info.

The casting # itself (1409788) is what you go by.

Zole 07-11-2022 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4837960)
Those are just which castings where used (in the Saginaw foundry i believe) info.

The casting # itself (1409788) is what you go by.

So what is your opinion what happend?.Now that you know that exoust was geting to hot..and the spark plug broke...what is your opinion


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