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Bryan Rose 02-20-2009 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by SOX (Post 2804425)
who pays retail?

The Government

Donzi Andy 02-20-2009 04:37 PM

Airshares asked for retail pricing. What do most think donzi's are being discounted?

SOX 02-20-2009 04:49 PM

With this market who can tell. It would all depend on how qualified the buyer is and hurting the dealer is. I can't imagine paying over 100k for the new Donzi. But I am no expert, just a hunch. Why pay more when there are other manufactures that will go that low or a like new boat near repossession that can be had at a steal just to get out ot the loan. Just my .02 I hope I am not comming across like an a$$.

LAKESIDE RESTORATIONS 02-20-2009 05:38 PM

Some dealers discount to about 15%. At least that was in the past. Everyone is different at arriving on their asking prices. ALso these days it is anyones guess. However I will say it is a tough market and most dealers are pricing to have the boats sell sell sell if they can. That said the bigger problem is that people who want loans are having trouble getting them even if the rep wants to work with them and the people have good credit.. It's a reall tough gig right now and I am glad I am not running a boat sales facility as my main line of income..

on a different note SOX, I see you are in NE MD & have been to my pal's place in NE MD (Jackson's).. Woody is a good friend of mine. We should meet up sometime when we come to North East.. We are trying to come down in March.. :) Jamie

Donzi Andy 02-20-2009 07:02 PM

I just ordered my new Donzi from Shipyard marine out of Wisconsin. They really went above and beyond in trying to help me get the boat I exactly wanted. I also felt that they were very aggressive with there pricing on a custom order. If anyone is in the market for a new or used Donzi, I highly recommend giving Scott at Shipyard Marine a call.
920-232-9500

SOX 02-20-2009 08:25 PM

Very cool! What is the lead time? Keep us posted with photos!

Jamie, Sounds good! I talked with Woody about the 27 ZR he has (or had) in stock and he was going to offer me a great deal. Unfortunalty Karen was not thrilled with the layout so we held off.

Give me a shout on Facebook when you guys are heading down and we'll hang!

donzi1200s 02-21-2009 10:25 AM

bajadream (should now be DONZIdream) thanks for the recommendation and kind words! You've been a great customer and asset to us and working with you on the order for your 09' 27 ZR has been a blast; it's amazing what Donzi is doing on your custom order and I'm pumped to see it when we go to pick it up!

Donzi Andy 02-21-2009 01:15 PM

The boat should be ready for pickup in early april. I ordered custom graphics, this will be the first 27 zr donzi has built with custom graphics. I should know sometime in the next week when the boat will go into production and donzi is doing a rendering of the grphics that I should be approving any day now. The process is very exciting, and to top it off I will be going to donzi to pick up the boat and get the factory tour.

ZXXX Donzi 02-21-2009 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by bajadream (Post 2805013)
I just ordered my new Donzi from Shipyard marine out of Wisconsin. They really went above and beyond in trying to help me get the boat I exactly wanted. I also felt that they were very aggressive with there pricing on a custom order. If anyone is in the market for a new or used Donzi, I highly recommend giving Scott at Shipyard Marine a call.
920-232-9500

Cool, what other options did you get?

Fast-Truckin 02-21-2009 08:22 PM


Originally Posted by bajadream (Post 2805429)
The boat should be ready for pickup in early april. I ordered custom graphics, this will be the first 27 zr donzi has built with custom graphics. I should know sometime in the next week when the boat will go into production and donzi is doing a rendering of the grphics that I should be approving any day now. The process is very exciting, and to top it off I will be going to donzi to pick up the boat and get the factory tour.

I hate to be noisey,but what did the final bill come too?Nice boat,maybe oneday?

SOX 02-21-2009 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by Fast-Truckin (Post 2805651)
I hate to be noisey,but what did the final bill come too?Nice boat,maybe oneday?


We all want to know just you were the only one with the sack to ask...:evilb: :party-smiley-004:

How about the rendereings, will you share them with us or will we have to wait until the finished product?

Fast-Truckin 02-21-2009 09:09 PM


Originally Posted by SOX (Post 2805653)
We all want to know just you were the only one with the sack to ask...:evilb: :party-smiley-004:

How about the rendereings, will you share them with us or will we have to wait until the finished product?

I was talking to woody about his 27zr.Your pictures of the low headroom in the cabin,Ive been in the boat also is a :mad:Bummer.But,Iam waiting and thinking..:rolleyes:.. paying off some credit cards.Iam also lowering my ing. morgage by 1%.That saves me $140 a month.Ive got a large truck that will be paid off in 24 more months($1300.00 per).SO the plan now is to keep my 22zx for another two years and I was thinking about the new 27zr with the increased headroom.That would work good for me.I like custom paint :cool:as my old 28zx was nice(catalog boat) and my 2002 22zx has the blue painted side option(turns heads at the sand bar)

JW in Texas 02-22-2009 11:18 AM

bajadream,
You're going to love the boat! I've had my '07 for two seasons & don't regret a minute of it. Can't wait to see the graphics!
J

Donzi Andy 02-22-2009 03:09 PM

The options that I ordered are as follows:
2009 27 ZR w/ 525 bravo xr
quick and quiet
dual battery
depth finder
k-planes
silver carbon upholstery w/red and black accents
custom zoom graphics
prestige trailer with spare

The msrp was 175,000

JW in Texas 02-22-2009 03:26 PM

Nice! She should fly with the 525!

Mine was 72 w/the 496/Bravo 1, 70 now w/the labbed Maximus but it brought the cruise up nicely(50 @ 3600). You should see low 80s with a sweet cruising speed!

Post the rendition of the graphics so we can all drool!
J

ZXXX Donzi 02-22-2009 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by bajadream (Post 2806007)
The options that I ordered are as follows:
2009 27 ZR w/ 525 bravo xr
quick and quiet
dual battery
depth finder
k-planes
silver carbon upholstery w/red and black accents
custom zoom graphics
prestige trailer with spare

The msrp was 175,000

Nice package. Let us know how it runs. I am thinking that you will see in the 80's.

Donzi Andy 02-22-2009 08:35 PM

I should be getting the graphic renderings sometime this week. The factory guys told me the 27 should do 80-82 with this engine package.

SOX 02-22-2009 08:44 PM

WOW! sounds like a great package! Lots of luck!

Fast-Truckin 02-23-2009 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by bajadream (Post 2806007)
The options that I ordered are as follows:
2009 27 ZR w/ 525 bravo xr
quick and quiet
dual battery
depth finder
k-planes
silver carbon upholstery w/red and black accents
custom zoom graphics
prestige trailer with spare

The msrp was 175,000

Wow! I think you did good.K-planes was a must.In two years if you want to sell call me:drink:....PLEASE scan and post the graphics,I want to dream...............

Bryan Rose 02-23-2009 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by bajadream (Post 2806007)
The options that I ordered are as follows:
2009 27 ZR w/ 525 bravo xr
quick and quiet
dual battery
depth finder
k-planes
silver carbon upholstery w/red and black accents
custom zoom graphics
prestige trailer with spare

The msrp was 175,000


Not to sound like an ass but did I read this right?, MSRP $175,000.00 for a 27 foot boat.....even take off 30 % from MSRP and you still come in around $ 122,500.00 plus tax, trailer,oops saw the trailer there,etc...... must be a nice boat.
Bryan

JW in Texas 02-24-2009 07:41 AM

Well, if you want the blue motor you have to pay the piper!
J

Fast-Truckin 02-25-2009 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by JW in Texas (Post 2807386)
Well, if you want the blue motor you have to pay the piper!J

I was thinking why not get the 496ho and add cmi exhaust and a blower?That would be faster and a lot cheaper.

JW in Texas 02-25-2009 01:18 PM

Yeah, I was kind of thinking the same thing when I bought mine. The 525 was a $ 25k bump over the 496. Mine will get Raylar'd eventually so I'll end up close to the same place for less coin. The Blue motor is a sweet set-up, I just couldn't justify the premium for it.
J

ZXXX Donzi 02-25-2009 02:02 PM

I like the Blue or you could sell the 496, take those funds and have a custom built 540 with a warranty. You will be kicking over 600hp for the same price.

JW in Texas 02-25-2009 02:21 PM

That's true too. The blue is factory bullet proof but 600 ponies would be very sweet!
J

ZXXX Donzi 02-25-2009 04:26 PM

I really want to see someone put some big power in a 27ZR

Donzi Andy 02-25-2009 06:09 PM

My boat is going into production on monday, was told the graphic rendering should be ready on friday or monday hopefully.

Donzi is going to build a 27 zr with a merc 600, although for the extra coin and maybe a 5 mph increase I don't think it is worth it.

When I decided to buy the 27 ZR I looked at all my options. I looked at the raylar kit and even a whipple. What I decided was that once you added a raylar or blower, cmi exhaust and upgraded the drive for the power. You were not saving enough money to go through all the trouble of having someone install all those parts. When you could factory order and have a warranty on a bullet proof package like the blue motor.

I also looked into having a custom painter paint the graphics that the factory offered, but once again I felt it was worth the little extra cost and save the hassle of taking the boat to someone for a few weeks. The other big thing was the factory would warranty the paint so I could deal right with my dealer that I purchased the boat from. The hassle of dealing with multiple companies and the logistics of getting the boat to them for the work, and knowing that I would get exactly what I wanted seemed to make the most sense to have have Donzi take care of everything.

I also don't want to leave out that Scott at Shipyard Marine did a bunch of the leg work for me in calling and getting quotes to compare pricing on paint from a couple of painters. In the end Donzi was able to step up and do what I wanted for what a custom painter would charge.

ZXXX Donzi 02-26-2009 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by bajadream (Post 2808600)
My boat is going into production on monday, was told the graphic rendering should be ready on friday or monday hopefully.

Donzi is going to build a 27 zr with a merc 600, although for the extra coin and maybe a 5 mph increase I don't think it is worth it.

When I decided to buy the 27 ZR I looked at all my options. I looked at the raylar kit and even a whipple. What I decided was that once you added a raylar or blower, cmi exhaust and upgraded the drive for the power. You were not saving enough money to go through all the trouble of having someone install all those parts. When you could factory order and have a warranty on a bullet proof package like the blue motor.

I also looked into having a custom painter paint the graphics that the factory offered, but once again I felt it was worth the little extra cost and save the hassle of taking the boat to someone for a few weeks. The other big thing was the factory would warranty the paint so I could deal right with my dealer that I purchased the boat from. The hassle of dealing with multiple companies and the logistics of getting the boat to them for the work, and knowing that I would get exactly what I wanted seemed to make the most sense to have have Donzi take care of everything.

I also don't want to leave out that Scott at Shipyard Marine did a bunch of the leg work for me in calling and getting quotes to compare pricing on paint from a couple of painters. In the end Donzi was able to step up and do what I wanted for what a custom painter would charge.

I like the Blue over the whipple idea too and it packs more hp than the Raylar 525.

I will be waiting to see that custom paint.

JW in Texas 02-26-2009 10:36 AM

I agree. This is sounding like the coolest 27 yet. Can't wait to see the pics!
J

donzi1200s 02-26-2009 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by bajadream (Post 2808600)
My boat is going into production on monday, was told the graphic rendering should be ready on friday or monday hopefully.

Donzi is going to build a 27 zr with a merc 600, although for the extra coin and maybe a 5 mph increase I don't think it is worth it.

When I decided to buy the 27 ZR I looked at all my options. I looked at the raylar kit and even a whipple. What I decided was that once you added a raylar or blower, cmi exhaust and upgraded the drive for the power. You were not saving enough money to go through all the trouble of having someone install all those parts. When you could factory order and have a warranty on a bullet proof package like the blue motor.

I also looked into having a custom painter paint the graphics that the factory offered, but once again I felt it was worth the little extra cost and save the hassle of taking the boat to someone for a few weeks. The other big thing was the factory would warranty the paint so I could deal right with my dealer that I purchased the boat from. The hassle of dealing with multiple companies and the logistics of getting the boat to them for the work, and knowing that I would get exactly what I wanted seemed to make the most sense to have have Donzi take care of everything.

I also don't want to leave out that Scott at Shipyard Marine did a bunch of the leg work for me in calling and getting quotes to compare pricing on paint from a couple of painters. In the end Donzi was able to step up and do what I wanted for what a custom painter would charge.

Thanks Bajadream. I will add, however, that had Donzi and our reps not been willing to take the time and effort to truly redefine the limits of "customization" on the 27ZR, the order would have never happened. I believe that because of their willingness to "tweak" and do in-house custom graphics on models like the 27, more doors will open down the road.

For me, specifically, I learned from this process on the 27ZR that I should never assume that a manufacturer has limits (even in these times). If we had not had the opportunity to speak with the head management so easily regarding the changes in question, I think the 27ZR would have been passed by for other Brands due to the perceived limits on the 27.

To sum it up for me - don't assume the blue motor and custom graphics are out of reach before you speak with the dealer/manufactuer!

donzi1200s 02-26-2009 10:41 AM


Originally Posted by ZXXX Donzi (Post 2809012)
I like the Blue over the whipple idea too and it packs more hp than the Raylar 525.

I will be waiting to see that custom paint.

I also need to give Bajadream a big THANK YOU for pushing Donzi to open more doors and for your patience! I am anxious to see this come together, so I cannot even imagine how you're able to wait!

I'll e-mail the graphic rendering to you as soon as it hits my in-box!

MarkDonzi 02-27-2009 05:16 AM

Hey Bajadream,

Congrats on the new ride. When I bought my Donzi all the people at the Donzi factory were great to work with and very accomodating. You will love the blue motors. Best of Luck!

Now you have to change your Login Name "baja??"

Mark

intouch1 02-27-2009 01:04 PM

be careful with the quick and quiet.
there is no bolt on corsa quick and quiet for the 525.
your only option would be some after flame setup for the 525.

if someone tells you it works they are wrong.......

175k is a lot of money for a rather small 27 ft boat with single engine.

i had a 27zr with a 496 and bravo 1x. was very happy with the boat. i sold it on at approx. 60 hours and stepped into a 32 sunny ssr with twin 525's and bravo xr's.....great boat.

from my experience the 525 would be really pushing the 27. especially in bigger chop the ride becomes rather harsh.

it will give you great cruising speeds.

my 27zr used to chine walk at the upper 60's.

good luck and enjoy

Donzi Andy 02-27-2009 06:04 PM

The quick and quiet is a factory offered option, and I am sure that Donzi would not offer such an option if it would not work. I do know that the system for the 496 and the 525 are different, so I am sure everything will workout fine.

And as far as the 27 ZR being expensive and small for its size... I don't know what you would suggest for an alternative. The 28 sunsation with blue power is more money and something like a baja 26 outlaw with blue power maybe less money without the customization, then again it isn't built off of race proven technology an won't run anything close to 80 mph.:evilb:

MarkDonzi 02-28-2009 07:51 AM

Baja/soon to be Donzi,

I'm trying to remember the reason, butI think they could not install the Corsa on my Donzi because of the staggered config so they went with Teague switchable tips on the exhaust. I was concerned until I tried them out and they work great. Could be an option for you to look at.

Mark

Donzi Andy 02-28-2009 10:18 AM

Mark, I am not sure what brand switchable exhaust Donzi will be using, although does it really matter. All I do know is that it was an option when I placed the order for the boat, so I am sure that Donzi would not have offered something unless they were sure that it would work properly.

I can't wait to see that rendering of the graphics for my boat, the anticipation is out of control

Donzi Andy 02-28-2009 10:23 AM

I wish Donzi would make the billet controls standard like all the other boats in the ZR line. That is the only option that I think I wish I might have gotten.

If anyone knows how to change a screen name I would like to change might, not sure that you can?

ZXXX Donzi 02-28-2009 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by bajadream (Post 2810680)
I wish Donzi would make the billet controls standard like all the other boats in the ZR line. That is the only option that I think I wish I might have gotten.

If anyone knows how to change a screen name I would like to change might, not sure that you can?

I think you will be happy with your choice and I have not heard any problems from those switchable systems. It has much better lines than the Sunsation IMO.

I emailed OSO and they changed it for me. I am told that they dont' like to do it often but will do it on a case by case basis. That was in the old days.

You certainly need to change it.

robert246 02-28-2009 03:34 PM

yes definitely change screen name -thats almost as bad as sunsation dream

ZXXX Donzi 02-28-2009 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by robert246 (Post 2810899)
yes definitely change screen name -thats almost as bad as sunsation dream

Good point. That being said, I probably would not use Donzidream either


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