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Old 07-18-2012 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Shag555
My measures off the transom plate as you described are 6.5" down, and 6.5" up (at flat of the bottom of the swim platform, past radius).
I'll check mine tomorrow...

I just looked at pics/video of my boat and my props also spin IN from the factory so my previous statement was wrong.
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Old 07-18-2012 | 09:13 AM
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Mine turn out...
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Old 07-18-2012 | 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Shag555
Mine turn out...
There is a 2005 ZXO on eBay right now... 350 Mags, turning in. Looks like M+, probably 23 pitch.

This is beginning to blow my mind. Every boat is different. I wonder if Donzi just left it up to the person hooking up the cables.
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Old 07-18-2012 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Shag555
2001 28zx 350 mag mpi's bravo 1's 1.50 ratio.
Mirage Plus 23's
Will run 68-70 mph gps all day long. Fastest has been 71mph. Slip calculator shows <10% at 5100 rpm.
Comes up on plane really easy. Will stay on plane as slow as 23mph.
Handling is great, but going to full hydraulic steering next year.
Also want to do Lunatti stroked kit @ 383cuin, so there goes the prop setup!
I have a 2000 just like yours, numbers are real close. 71.8 gps Ran a little faster with 25 M not pluses. 72.6, but at 3500 ran about 4-5 mph faster than 23's M pluses...X on mine looks like 7 from bottom up 6 from top to swim platform...
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Old 07-18-2012 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DONZI28ZX
I have a 2000 just like yours, numbers are real close. 71.8 gps Ran a little faster with 25 M not pluses. 72.6, but at 3500 ran about 4-5 mph faster than 23's M pluses...X on mine looks like 7 from bottom up 6 from top to swim platform...
That's interesting... you seem to be a half inch higher in drive height.
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Old 07-18-2012 | 10:40 PM
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What kind of R's are you turning with the 25's? I'm on the rev limiter with 23's and have a lead on a clean set of 25p's.

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I have a 2000 just like yours, numbers are real close. 71.8 gps Ran a little faster with 25 M not pluses. 72.6, but at 3500 ran about 4-5 mph faster than 23's M pluses...X on mine looks like 7 from bottom up 6 from top to swim platform...
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Old 07-20-2012 | 07:50 AM
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Good news and bad news...

Good news is I got on the boat yesterday. I also got to try the 26 Hydromotives.

Bad news is I forgot my tape measure and the weather was horrible so it was a very short ride.

This is just an initial trial of the props. So far they seem to behave between the M+ and the Bravo. Planing isn't terrible like the M+ (no blow out) but there is slip getting moving. Cruise is about 45 at 3500. Top end, not really sure as I ran out of real estate in the one spot I ran... got it up to 63 and climbing though. at full throttle, trimmed, and 60+ the boat is light in the rear.

I'll test more this weekend. I think between these and one of the Bravo sets I'll send one set out to be worked and labbed.
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Old 07-20-2012 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Shag555
What kind of R's are you turning with the 25's? I'm on the rev limiter with 23's and have a lead on a clean set of 25p's.
Same here on rev limiter with 23, 25's remember not pluses 4800-maybe 4850, if you get 25 m pluses should be at 5000 or real close....
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Old 07-23-2012 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DONZI28ZX
Same here on rev limiter with 23, 25's remember not pluses 4800-maybe 4850, if you get 25 m pluses should be at 5000 or real close....
The plus version adds cup, so you have to factor in an extra inch of prop... so 26". If you are running 4800-4850 with the M then the M+ will be 100-200 RPM less than that.
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Old 07-23-2012 | 08:01 AM
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I ran again with the Hydro's this weekend. Definitely a bit too much stern lift at speed. Top speed, still near full fuel and a loaded boat with 4 people heading to the sandbar was 66.

All in all, these aren't the ones for me. They would be a great upgrade for someone that is on the fence with the 1.65 drives running the M+ props. I think labbing these and adding cup for bow lift would easily take the boat into the 70's.

That may still be an option for me but I'm a bit scared to have this set of props labbed props hanging off the stern. I could see my kids getting hurt climbing in/out of the boat at the sand bar.

So... if anyone wants to buy or trade these let me know. I'll take a clean set of 25 M+'s. I traded mine for the Bravo 24's and I think I'd like a set for the occasional time when I just want to run fast.
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