1966 19 ft. St Tropez
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Sorry for some of the repeat photos my phone is touchy lol
I looked for that hin # and like you said the back of the transom is covered in grey gelcoat the front bunk I don't think is but it was close to getting dark so I didnt pay attention to it . hey theres a pic of this scupper looking pipe in the front bunk got any idea of what that went to ? Also in front of the cc is a cut out I'm not sure but is that where the front tank went ? I took a pic of it . any way let me k now. What ya think thanks
I looked for that hin # and like you said the back of the transom is covered in grey gelcoat the front bunk I don't think is but it was close to getting dark so I didnt pay attention to it . hey theres a pic of this scupper looking pipe in the front bunk got any idea of what that went to ? Also in front of the cc is a cut out I'm not sure but is that where the front tank went ? I took a pic of it . any way let me k now. What ya think thanks
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Well , you've got plenty there to keep you occupied for while !
Those 2 through hulls are a bit puzzling . I believe that a longtime back I heard of someone talking about having seen a St Tropez with a small head up in the bow ! Might yours have had one as well at some point ?
One major thing , that console is not from a St Tropez. Someone has pirated one off another boat and butchered it to fit. .It's way too large and high. The St T console is a small unit and much lower. you can also see chopper gun strand layup inside of it , something that you won't see on a St T. That cut out on the sole in front of the console is the under floor storage lazarette. The tank should not intrude into that space , but open it up and have a look . It should not be screwed down in any way . It's supposed to have a lifting eye on it .edit: I must be confused , I see that you did open it . The original rubbing band is gone too.
That's a non trimmable 280 drive. Looks like it's seen a bit of electrolysis but they superseded the 270 drive and are a tad more hydrodynamic .
The pics of the bottom aren't quite sharp enough but I think I can see some stress cracking where I would have expected it to be. It would have been better if the camera angle was at 90deg to the bottom though.
Lord knows where those trim tabs came from but they sure weren't put on at the factory . I also don't like the looks of those screws going through the transom below the waterline.
It sure does look like a complete repower though (at some point a long time ago) .
You'll feel a bit better once you get it cleaned up a bit and see where you're going .
Those 2 through hulls are a bit puzzling . I believe that a longtime back I heard of someone talking about having seen a St Tropez with a small head up in the bow ! Might yours have had one as well at some point ?
One major thing , that console is not from a St Tropez. Someone has pirated one off another boat and butchered it to fit. .It's way too large and high. The St T console is a small unit and much lower. you can also see chopper gun strand layup inside of it , something that you won't see on a St T. That cut out on the sole in front of the console is the under floor storage lazarette. The tank should not intrude into that space , but open it up and have a look . It should not be screwed down in any way . It's supposed to have a lifting eye on it .edit: I must be confused , I see that you did open it . The original rubbing band is gone too.
That's a non trimmable 280 drive. Looks like it's seen a bit of electrolysis but they superseded the 270 drive and are a tad more hydrodynamic .
The pics of the bottom aren't quite sharp enough but I think I can see some stress cracking where I would have expected it to be. It would have been better if the camera angle was at 90deg to the bottom though.
Lord knows where those trim tabs came from but they sure weren't put on at the factory . I also don't like the looks of those screws going through the transom below the waterline.
It sure does look like a complete repower though (at some point a long time ago) .
You'll feel a bit better once you get it cleaned up a bit and see where you're going .
Last edited by madbouyz; 07-08-2018 at 07:01 AM.
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Just as a refresher , here is the link to the thread on the Donzi.net about the sky blue St T that was found in Cannes . The pictures are still available on this thread , unlike mine .
Notice the console . That's what they're supposed to look like on A St T .
I just realized that if you follow that thread along , at post 35 there's a shot of mine showing the bow area and some of the spiffy new candy stripe cushions are visible.
https://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?70123-St-Tropez-coming-from-Cannes&highlight=klub+st+tropez
Notice the console . That's what they're supposed to look like on A St T .
I just realized that if you follow that thread along , at post 35 there's a shot of mine showing the bow area and some of the spiffy new candy stripe cushions are visible.
https://www.donzi.net/forums/showthread.php?70123-St-Tropez-coming-from-Cannes&highlight=klub+st+tropez
Last edited by madbouyz; 07-08-2018 at 07:35 AM.
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I guess that it's possible for a really good glass guy to fabricate one from scratch using old photos . That monstrosity would have to come off first though so he can see the recess in the floor where the outer flange of the console fits into and makes it flush with the cockpit sole .
I imagine that a competent person could make one out of composite foam coring and glass . With plenty of fairing and finish work it could even look good enough to be original.
But it probably would cost as much as what you paid for the boat.
Finding used pieces off a St T would be near impossible I would imagine . I was so lucky with both of my projects . They both had all of the original pieces .
But make no mistake about it , you've got a lot of work ahead of you to make that thing sparkle again .
I imagine that a competent person could make one out of composite foam coring and glass . With plenty of fairing and finish work it could even look good enough to be original.
But it probably would cost as much as what you paid for the boat.
Finding used pieces off a St T would be near impossible I would imagine . I was so lucky with both of my projects . They both had all of the original pieces .
But make no mistake about it , you've got a lot of work ahead of you to make that thing sparkle again .
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Funny how the more you look at the pics the more you notice.
Someone cared enough to align the screw heads on the trim tabs but there's household PVC piping , complete with plastic shutoff valves , on the engine ! !
Someone cared enough to align the screw heads on the trim tabs but there's household PVC piping , complete with plastic shutoff valves , on the engine ! !
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Yup I know there's a lot refit to be done buy I'll have to do that one chunk at a time .
as far as that cc I'll be able to build one out of divinasell and triple mat fortunately ive done a lot of glass with but I'm sure it'll be one of those things I do in the winter lol. Plus I still have to have my shop built at my new place so I can tackle all the projects I have so for now I'm going to clean her up fix the mech problems get in the water and see what else poops up . as far as the screws being aligned I'm sure it was an accedently done haha . I'll send some more pics of the bottom in a little bit at the right angle ( crawling under it ) as far as the enclosed head I'm not sure how they would have fit it under there . I'll send some more pics of that area . do you think there's any spec or build blue print some were arround for the cc ?
as far as that cc I'll be able to build one out of divinasell and triple mat fortunately ive done a lot of glass with but I'm sure it'll be one of those things I do in the winter lol. Plus I still have to have my shop built at my new place so I can tackle all the projects I have so for now I'm going to clean her up fix the mech problems get in the water and see what else poops up . as far as the screws being aligned I'm sure it was an accedently done haha . I'll send some more pics of the bottom in a little bit at the right angle ( crawling under it ) as far as the enclosed head I'm not sure how they would have fit it under there . I'll send some more pics of that area . do you think there's any spec or build blue print some were arround for the cc ?
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Hey , if you're handy with glass you could well build something yourself . It would be nice though to have some clear pics of the original and how it fits onto the cockpit floor .
Which brings me to another point . The cockpit tub was very poorly supported underneath and lacked support over the stringers from one side to the other and under the console.
With the driver in the center of the boat as well as the console this resulted in the floor sagging on both sides of the console and causing the floor to actually crack on both sides of the console . Unfortunately there's no pics of your floor , can you recall seeing any of this damage on yours ?
In the end , when I did the complete rebuild on mine , I flipped the floor tub and ground out everything . Surprisingly the old plywood coring was only about 50% bonded in the original build !
Recored the entire floor with foam composite and epoxy and a few layers of glass and now it's like walking on the deck of a navy destroyer.
I was thinking that that engine/drive package resembles a repower that was done on a friend's boat back in the mid-later '70s that I ran a lot . It was a Ford Commander package , maybe 235-255hp with the Volvo 280 drive. It worked very well in that 19 foot deep V. Engines were so simple back then .
But definitely don't try and take on too much at once.Nothing ever gets done properly that way .
Which brings me to another point . The cockpit tub was very poorly supported underneath and lacked support over the stringers from one side to the other and under the console.
With the driver in the center of the boat as well as the console this resulted in the floor sagging on both sides of the console and causing the floor to actually crack on both sides of the console . Unfortunately there's no pics of your floor , can you recall seeing any of this damage on yours ?
In the end , when I did the complete rebuild on mine , I flipped the floor tub and ground out everything . Surprisingly the old plywood coring was only about 50% bonded in the original build !
Recored the entire floor with foam composite and epoxy and a few layers of glass and now it's like walking on the deck of a navy destroyer.
I was thinking that that engine/drive package resembles a repower that was done on a friend's boat back in the mid-later '70s that I ran a lot . It was a Ford Commander package , maybe 235-255hp with the Volvo 280 drive. It worked very well in that 19 foot deep V. Engines were so simple back then .
But definitely don't try and take on too much at once.Nothing ever gets done properly that way .





