II's are a nightmare to find parts for. When you do find them they're more than III parts. The good news is that your II's are valuable and could offset the swap to III's somewhat. Unless you're hitting 750+ per side, the III's are bulletproof in a light boat like that.

Forget the Bravos. Unless you go all out and get the high-end, you still have a weak drive. Plus, they'll sit somewhat rearward (no trans) which will affect the boat's balance front-to-rear.

We have a few of these boats with the Arnesons and they definietly run way faster than a TRS could ever reach.

when i put mi chris cat together 12 years ago, i planned on using my trs and 500 s out of a scarab. the origonal chris craft brochure said that the stock power was 400/trs. I spoke to i believe it was Bob Collotti? who used to set these up at chris craft and he said that the trs would only last a couple hours as they are not made to surface and they will pound themselves to death. Crush washers?? they can be solid shimmed, but still do not last. I went with Arneson ASD8 and never looked back.

price out a konrad set up with ext box , and arneson ads 8s see which less to do. the konrad with boxes would let you keep the drives, engines where they are going back 12'' is like going down 1 to 2''. hey Biggus what do you think

price out a konrad set up with ext box , and arneson ads 8s see which less to do. the konrad with boxes would let you keep the drives, engines where they are going back 12'' is like going down 1 to 2''. hey Biggus what do you think

With all due respect, you cannot compare those two drives, and the lower price might not be the one you think.

Educate yourself before you post please.

ouch, Rik!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No. It's not like that.

It's just that he is comparing a drive in one category to a drive that is in the SSM#6 category.

Two totally different worlds. Then to use a negative comparative analysis is totaly senseless and unnecessary especially when someone with experience with this exact setup has posted his experience on this thread.

rik sorry if I hurt your feels, howard arneson came out with a nice surface drive, I am saying he would not have to move his motors, thats all and he's running motors that fit in line with a konrad. plus props would be B1S, MAX, P5S, PROPS THAT COST 450 TO 900 ALOT LESS MONEY THAN SURFACE DRIVE PROPS THAT ARE 2000 TO 4500. JUST GIVING A GUY A little INFO ON WHATS OUT THERE, AND I NEVER HEAR A BAD THINK ABOUT A KONRAD, CAN'T SAY THE SAME ABOUT THE OTHER.

You are not getting it apparently. I am not hurt nor upset as you have implied, rather just hoping you would gain some more insightful information before you post your misconceptions.

You are comparing an Arneson ASD8, which has a 1,500 hp rating and is used in applications with over 2,000 hp successfully, to a drive with an 800 hp rating.

Just to spell things out for you in plane english, two totally different markets, two totally different applications.

What you should have known, and would have looked a lot more intelligent comparing is the drive you mentioned to our "Bravo Conversion Drive" the first drive on the market to, read this carefully now, "Leave the engine where the Bravo requires it and not move the engine forward".

All others have copied this idea from Arneson, not the other way around. Another key point you missed.

Now that this is out of the way, YES you are correct, the propellers we require are the Speed Master style from Mercury, Hering, Rolla, Elstrom or even Throttle Up. Yes these cost more than a Mercury Bravo propeller, but there are benefits from these as well that the Bravo propeller does not have.