Konrad Drives
07-16-2009 | 11:16 AM
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Proof?
I have proof, too.
These are MY gears. They were removed from my drives after 4 seasons of beating the daylights out of them, all tolled 200+ hours of constant abuse.
That "light" raceboat of mine isn't what it appears. Dangling on a crane, the scales show her weighing in at 9,300 lbs. And, yes, that's AFTER I removed all of the cabin/interior down below. Light is certainly not a word I would use to describe the 10-Meter Fountain of Youth.
In 5 seasons of racing with these drives, I had one "failure", if you could call it that. I came down sideways off a 8 foot wave in Ocean City, and snapped off a lower unit at the studs. Now mind you, this was the very next race after spinning her around backwards in Key West, so those studs might have been stressed a bit. But ask someone who was at the races that day about what happened to a fellow P4 competitor and his Bravos, he came back after the race with one of them hanging from a tiebar.
I have, and will continue to beat these drives mercilessly. I'm running a pair 750hp dry-sump SuperCat motors, with tq numbers in the mid-600's from 3000 thru 6500. If anyone is a crash-test dummy for these things, it's me. They just take it. 1500hp at WOT for 45 minutes in a 9300 lb resin bucket (in ANY conditions) should be proof enough for you.
JoeTool, I don't know what went wrong with your setup, but something isn't adding up. And what further doesn't compute, is the bashing you're giving the great folks at Konrad. These people have bent over backwards for me, and I've personally witnessed them doing the same for dozens of other customers.
Konrad's products, and the Team are first class.
Sincerely,
Brian Bunch
P.S. 520, 540, Ace, PRS... they're all the same stuff, just configured differently. Saying one is good and the other isn't doesn't make a lick of sense.
Gotta go. Time to go beat them up on a Poker Run.
These are MY gears. They were removed from my drives after 4 seasons of beating the daylights out of them, all tolled 200+ hours of constant abuse.
That "light" raceboat of mine isn't what it appears. Dangling on a crane, the scales show her weighing in at 9,300 lbs. And, yes, that's AFTER I removed all of the cabin/interior down below. Light is certainly not a word I would use to describe the 10-Meter Fountain of Youth.
In 5 seasons of racing with these drives, I had one "failure", if you could call it that. I came down sideways off a 8 foot wave in Ocean City, and snapped off a lower unit at the studs. Now mind you, this was the very next race after spinning her around backwards in Key West, so those studs might have been stressed a bit. But ask someone who was at the races that day about what happened to a fellow P4 competitor and his Bravos, he came back after the race with one of them hanging from a tiebar.
I have, and will continue to beat these drives mercilessly. I'm running a pair 750hp dry-sump SuperCat motors, with tq numbers in the mid-600's from 3000 thru 6500. If anyone is a crash-test dummy for these things, it's me. They just take it. 1500hp at WOT for 45 minutes in a 9300 lb resin bucket (in ANY conditions) should be proof enough for you.
JoeTool, I don't know what went wrong with your setup, but something isn't adding up. And what further doesn't compute, is the bashing you're giving the great folks at Konrad. These people have bent over backwards for me, and I've personally witnessed them doing the same for dozens of other customers.
Konrad's products, and the Team are first class.
Sincerely,
Brian Bunch
P.S. 520, 540, Ace, PRS... they're all the same stuff, just configured differently. Saying one is good and the other isn't doesn't make a lick of sense.
Gotta go. Time to go beat them up on a Poker Run.
07-16-2009 | 12:12 PM
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I have proof, too.
These are MY gears. They were removed from my drives after 4 seasons of beating the daylights out of them, all tolled 200+ hours of constant abuse.
That "light" raceboat of mine isn't what it appears. Dangling on a crane, the scales show her weighing in at 9,300 lbs. And, yes, that's AFTER I removed all of the cabin/interior down below. Light is certainly not a word I would use to describe the 10-Meter Fountain of Youth.
In 5 seasons of racing with these drives, I had one "failure", if you could call it that. I came down sideways off a 8 foot wave in Ocean City, and snapped off a lower unit at the studs. Now mind you, this was the very next race after spinning her around backwards in Key West, so those studs might have been stressed a bit. But ask someone who was at the races that day about what happened to a fellow P4 competitor and his Bravos, he came back after the race with one of them hanging from a tiebar.
I have, and will continue to beat these drives mercilessly. I'm running a pair 750hp dry-sump SuperCat motors, with tq numbers in the mid-600's from 3000 thru 6500. If anyone is a crash-test dummy for these things, it's me. They just take it. 1500hp at WOT for 45 minutes in a 9300 lb resin bucket (in ANY conditions) should be proof enough for you.
JoeTool, I don't know what went wrong with your setup, but something isn't adding up. And what further doesn't compute, is the bashing you're giving the great folks at Konrad. These people have bent over backwards for me, and I've personally witnessed them doing the same for dozens of other customers.
Konrad's products, and the Team are first class.
Sincerely,
Brian Bunch
P.S. 520, 540, Ace, PRS... they're all the same stuff, just configured differently. Saying one is good and the other isn't doesn't make a lick of sense.
Gotta go. Time to go beat them up on a Poker Run.
These are MY gears. They were removed from my drives after 4 seasons of beating the daylights out of them, all tolled 200+ hours of constant abuse.
That "light" raceboat of mine isn't what it appears. Dangling on a crane, the scales show her weighing in at 9,300 lbs. And, yes, that's AFTER I removed all of the cabin/interior down below. Light is certainly not a word I would use to describe the 10-Meter Fountain of Youth.
In 5 seasons of racing with these drives, I had one "failure", if you could call it that. I came down sideways off a 8 foot wave in Ocean City, and snapped off a lower unit at the studs. Now mind you, this was the very next race after spinning her around backwards in Key West, so those studs might have been stressed a bit. But ask someone who was at the races that day about what happened to a fellow P4 competitor and his Bravos, he came back after the race with one of them hanging from a tiebar.
I have, and will continue to beat these drives mercilessly. I'm running a pair 750hp dry-sump SuperCat motors, with tq numbers in the mid-600's from 3000 thru 6500. If anyone is a crash-test dummy for these things, it's me. They just take it. 1500hp at WOT for 45 minutes in a 9300 lb resin bucket (in ANY conditions) should be proof enough for you.
JoeTool, I don't know what went wrong with your setup, but something isn't adding up. And what further doesn't compute, is the bashing you're giving the great folks at Konrad. These people have bent over backwards for me, and I've personally witnessed them doing the same for dozens of other customers.
Konrad's products, and the Team are first class.
Sincerely,
Brian Bunch
P.S. 520, 540, Ace, PRS... they're all the same stuff, just configured differently. Saying one is good and the other isn't doesn't make a lick of sense.
Gotta go. Time to go beat them up on a Poker Run.
But still i would like to see the same parts from a TRS next to yours !
Any how ,,,stay safe and i may see u up north.
Scott
07-16-2009 | 12:43 PM
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If you're coming to St. Clair, stop by the Konrad Marine/Scorpion Racing Engines tent and check out the Fountain of Youth's hardware up close. Sorry, I don't think you'll see any TRS's on display, or even on a race boat, anywhere for comparision.
But I'll buy you a beer anyway.
Cheers,
Brian
07-16-2009 | 07:19 PM
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From: HAMPTON BAYS NY
The reason I'm as you say bashing Konrad is the fact that there drives can't handle the hp. They repaired my one drive this week and installing it tomorrow, the turn around time was excellent and I'm thankful for that. The real question is how is the other drive going hold up???? They told me that they don't know why it broke which leaves me wondering about the other one??????????????? wouldn't you? I'll keep you all posted on it.
07-17-2009 | 12:32 AM
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From: frankenmuth michigan
Just similar in overall design,I have seen them on display at the st claire races,talked to kurt from konrad and Brian p4-33 and I work on my own Bravo lowers,the bravo gears are considerably smaller,Smitty
07-17-2009 | 11:13 AM
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Scott what makes me so pissed about your statements is you make them as a factual statement when you have obviously never seen the drive! You don't know that the Konrad has MASSIVE bearings and larger shafts and they have address most of the issues with the TRS. It is far from the same drive and the Konrad is almost 2" shorter. Don't speak as though you are an expert on a drive when you don't have a clue what you are talking about!
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07-17-2009 | 11:15 AM
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Scott what makes me so pissed about your statements is you make them as a factual statement when you have obviously never seen the drive! You don't know that the Konrad has MASSIVE bearings and larger shafts and they have address most of the issues with the TRS. It is far from the same drive and the Konrad is almost 2" shorter. Don't speak as though you are an expert on a drive when you don't have a clue what you are talking about!
NO WAY THEY ARE STRONGER THEN A #3 and up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thats what i was talking about and by the way konrad sais its an TRS replacement ,atleast they did use that term.
07-17-2009 | 01:33 PM
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How do you know that, you are assuming that. What do you base your OPINION on? Have you ever seen the drive, have you ever taken one apart, are you a metallurgist If you don't know what you are talking about and you clearly do not then you should just shut the f up. Do you think that Mercury would have sent a representative to this guys location to test props and work with him on set up for his boat? You give Mercury a call and ask them to come out and test props for a #3 drive and let me know how that goes. Do all those #3 drives really belong to you or some one else, maybe some one that owns a Cig?
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