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Old 02-03-2012, 05:06 PM
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So we stop derailing every other thread.

Here is what I have found, correct me if I am wrong....

www.xpowerdrive.com

We all like the drive, but none of us know how good it works, If its worth the money, and what boats even have them installed!

I have talked to Bill (bauberlen on OSO?) on the phone and seems like a great guy. Customer service seems on par with Rik at Arneson, and John at B-Max.

Price is around 35-40k EACH!

KAP on here tried them and has "no comment"!

Bill, owner of X-Power personal boat?
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...2-spectre.html

X-Power Stainless Gimbal Ring
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43277-en.html

X-Power "Jack Plate" style HD Transom Assembly?
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/d...m-plate-2.html

Old Threads that come up under search

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ve-report.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/d...se-drives.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...wer-drive.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...es-market.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...int-booth.html

I have only seem them once in person on this Skater. Owner claims he loves the drives.


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What really got my interest..again...was this Cig mentioned in another thread....

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o43448-en.html

My question is, What speeds do other Cigs run with similar HP and other drives. This would give us a good idea of the speed increase with this drive???? Only Prob we have is verifying the actual HP of this boat since the engines are not stock.
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Might want to talk to Tres Martin, I know he told me he has some experience with them.
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Who cares. They are $35k EACH! For just the drive. Hopefully they give you a T shirt or something with that ass raping.

I think they are a fantastic design, and appear to work great. Bauberlen has them on his one Spectre that is running over 170mph, so they must hold the power. But you can buy and break alot of XR's for that price. For the normal boater, the price is insane.
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Originally Posted by Philm
Who cares. They are $35k EACH! For just the drive. Hopefully they give you a T shirt or something with that ass raping.

I think they are a fantastic design, and appear to work great. Bauberlen has them on his one Spectre that is running over 170mph, so they must hold the power. But you can buy and break alot of XR's for that price. For the normal boater, the price is insane.

For that price, just put ASD#8-6s on it. I'll bet they take less power to spin than the X-Power and they are rated for 1500 ft.lbs. How much do the X-Power wheigh? The 1000 ft.lbs rated Ilmor Indy is about 35k list price, and probably cheaper when the deal is made. For those running less power, there is the proven ASD#7M with an 850 ft.lbs rating. I guess what I'm saying is, there is imo no need for the X-Power. About the many XR parts you can buy, yes that is true, but with the XR and the other Bravo style drives, you won't get the added speed and efficiency of a surface drive.

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Just my JMO here:

Study the Market then Develop!

When you are developing new products for the marine performance boating industry in TODAY'S economy you have to be careful in the concept stage to analyse your market especially from a marketable and accepted pricing model.
If you don't you tend to end up with products that can be great technical and engineered products and work well but are end user priced to high above their available market demographics. This is what I think happens to nice products like this drive and maybe that LS7 outboard premiered last year as the end all be all high powered outboard.
Merc's Quad cam 1350-1100 engines and drives seem very high priced but they are catering to a very small sector of the performance boating community who can afford the expenditure and wants the extreme performance results they supply.
In the drive market you must look at other products in the market like the Indy drive, Merc NXT, Merc 6,7&8 drives, IMCO SCX, etc. before you develop and release products like this and you see the price point of these drives versus what they supply to the market misses the mark.
Its all marketing 101 that becomes the history of such products.

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so lets do some math. 35 for the outdrive, hd transom assembly another 8500, spacers - 500, standoff box - 2200, inner transom assembly - 500 47+K
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Jimkidd (sp) on here has them!!!
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Originally Posted by Raylar
Just my JMO here:

Study the Market then Develop!

When you are developing new products for the marine performance boating industry in TODAY'S economy you have to be careful in the concept stage to analyse your market especially from a marketable and accepted pricing model.
If you don't you tend to end up with products that can be great technical and engineered products and work well but are end user priced to high above their available market demographics. This is what I think happens to nice products like this drive and maybe that LS7 outboard premiered last year as the end all be all high powered outboard.
Merc's Quad cam 1350-1100 engines and drives seem very high priced but they are catering to a very small sector of the performance boating community who can afford the expenditure and wants the extreme performance results they supply.
In the drive market you must look at other products in the market like the Indy drive, Merc NXT, Merc 6,7&8 drives, IMCO SCX, etc. before you develop and release products like this and you see the price point of these drives versus what they supply to the market misses the mark.
Its all marketing 101 that becomes the history of such products.

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You hit the nail on the head!

So what does X-Power do now?? Just enjoy the drives for his own personal use like he currently is!

Partner up with Sterling, or Teague and package them with engines?

Sell them at a lower price just to get them out there?

Give up?

I know you might not have the answer or care to share. But just in general, what now?
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I think he could flood the market if the price was reasonable, make his money on quantity.
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