Has any one installed a generator in a 357 SR1 ???
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If the 357 is the predecessor of the 382 and the 382 has a generator I wonder if there is room in the 357 to install one there too? Has anyone done that?
I have thought about getting a 357 that matches my 242 graphics to have a matching pair but I am after a generator and AC for the cabin. If I can add a gen set to a 357 I might pursue this idea for nostalgia and a cheaper way to go.
I think it would be kind of cool to have a 357 and 242 matching.
I have thought about getting a 357 that matches my 242 graphics to have a matching pair but I am after a generator and AC for the cabin. If I can add a gen set to a 357 I might pursue this idea for nostalgia and a cheaper way to go.
I think it would be kind of cool to have a 357 and 242 matching.
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I think as long as the area where you are is isolated and you have a CO detector it should be as safe as any gasoline powered generator....especially mounted outside the boat. This is my opinion but I don't advocate it!!
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Lot of people do that (honda) even though all the rules say no. It's a good temp way to run air and accessories in a small boat.
I think as long as the area where you are is isolated and you have a CO detector it should be as safe as any gasoline powered generator....especially mounted outside the boat. This is my opinion but I don't advocate it!!
I think as long as the area where you are is isolated and you have a CO detector it should be as safe as any gasoline powered generator....especially mounted outside the boat. This is my opinion but I don't advocate it!!

BTW: I saw a set-up where a Honda 2000 was mounted/exhausted to run right in the engine compartment. I never would have done it that way but from looking over the set-up it appeared safe to run (you'd have to see it).
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I had a 1986 Kamma 357 and with the Kamma set-up with transmissions, I saw no area of the bilge to install a water cooled marine generator. As my Kammas crapped out, I installed bravo 1's with a 12" Imco standoff box which moved the engines back to the rear of the bilge. I then had pleanty of room to install a generator between the engines and the front bulkhead of the bilge. I purchased a generator, but never got the chance to install in the boat before I got a divorce and sold the boat. I did sell the generator with the boat, but don't know if the new owner ever installed. I have always been shy of the Honda in the bilge option. I have read to many times about boaters dying of CO2 poisoning here in Central Florida. They do make ultra low emission generators now and that is the route I would go.
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I had a 1986 Kamma 357 and with the Kamma set-up with transmissions, I saw no area of the bilge to install a water cooled marine generator. As my Kammas crapped out, I installed bravo 1's with a 12" Imco standoff box which moved the engines back to the rear of the bilge. I then had pleanty of room to install a generator between the engines and the front bulkhead of the bilge. I purchased a generator, but never got the chance to install in the boat before I got a divorce and sold the boat. I did sell the generator with the boat, but don't know if the new owner ever installed. I have always been shy of the Honda in the bilge option. I have read to many times about boaters dying of CO2 poisoning here in Central Florida. They do make ultra low emission generators now and that is the route I would go.
Were the engines directly up behind the rear seat back in that Kaama set up?
This 357 has TRS which has trannies too. Is the engine placement the same with a trans application or are the trans different with different locations of the engine?
I have been looking around for pics to get an idea of where the engines are in relation to the back seat.
The 382 Gen set is partially tucked under the rear seat and the very few 353's that got gen's were more under the seat. I have to wonder if there is room I can make in the rear seat area of a 357? Or even move the seat?
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Use the right tool for the right job. If you are going to use a commercial HomeDepot generator, use it outside according to he supplied instructions. Not sure? RTFM.
This is what my 382 install looks like. It was added by the dealer (Dick Simon Marine) when I bought it......and done with factory parts (and factory installation instructions).
This is what my 382 install looks like. It was added by the dealer (Dick Simon Marine) when I bought it......and done with factory parts (and factory installation instructions).
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I saw a Westerbeke install in a 353 which was even smaller than that Kohler. Formula did three boats with that set up.
Depending on how much room is between the engines and seat might determine if I could use the Kohler or the smaller Westerbeke unit.
Depending on how much room is between the engines and seat might determine if I could use the Kohler or the smaller Westerbeke unit.
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The engines in the Kama are probably a little farther toward the rear seat than the TRS. The Kamma used a Twin Disc GM502 transmission that was pretty big. There should be room under the rear seat like Level III's pics above. Just make sure you get the correct set-up for the water intake to the generator and the exhaust from the generator. There is a real trick to insuring the incoming water pressure from the pick-up on the hull does not blow past the impeller on the generator's cooling system. You have to install a pressure by-pass line that is say 1.5" diameter to allow the generator to "sip" from the incoming water. Also, if the generator quits during speed, the water pressure at the impeller won't be too high. Good luck.
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The engines in the Kama are probably a little farther toward the rear seat than the TRS. The Kamma used a Twin Disc GM502 transmission that was pretty big. There should be room under the rear seat like Level III's pics above. Just make sure you get the correct set-up for the water intake to the generator and the exhaust from the generator. There is a real trick to insuring the incoming water pressure from the pick-up on the hull does not blow past the impeller on the generator's cooling system. You have to install a pressure by-pass line that is say 1.5" diameter to allow the generator to "sip" from the incoming water. Also, if the generator quits during speed, the water pressure at the impeller won't be too high. Good luck.
Did some Kaama 357's have a gen set? Sounds like I should have no lack of room for a gen with the TRS set up then.
I see there is a lot of dynamics to address rigging a genny. As a tech I am a do-it-yourselfer but this could be one of those jobs that I sub out.
I'll have to see which boat I buy then I will know my needs.



