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RT930turbo 02-04-2015 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jriggs (Post 4259341)
I bet in the real world, there is about 3-4 mph difference between the two boats with same engine package.

If that... the 419 I was seriously considering ran about the same as your boat does with the same power. The cabin and cockpit are no larger than a 382, and the cabin is the "old" design.

Love the 419, the extra 3' does help in the rough stuff, but they certainly aren't speed demons

jeff32 02-05-2015 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RT930turbo (Post 4260593)
If that... the 419 I was seriously considering ran about the same as your boat does with the same power. The cabin and cockpit are no larger than a 382, and the cabin is the "old" design.

Love the 419, the extra 3' does help in the rough stuff, but they certainly aren't speed demons

Cabin no larger than 382??? It is in fact much bigger! Just entering the cabin there is 3 steps instead of 2!

It is bigger for sure!!!

RT930turbo 02-05-2015 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jeff32 (Post 4260622)
Cabin no larger than 382??? It is in fact much bigger! Just entering the cabin there is 3 steps instead of 2!

It is bigger for sure!!!

5'5" 419 vs 5'1" 382 cabin headroom. You gain 4 inches headroom at the entrance. However the length and width are pretty much identical, maybe an inch or three here and there. I tie up next to a 419 fastech every weekend, and the differences have been well observed :)

Cockpit is identical, it's all in the sunpad...

38fountainecman 02-05-2015 04:41 PM

But oh boy what a sun pad!!! I used to camp out for the weekend on mine! Also, there is nothing like starting three engines at the dock. I do agree with RT930 that the length and width of the cabin and cockpit are pretty close, not really noticeable. Mine was certainly a wave crusher, loved the ride of the boat, miss it also.

Baja_Bigdog 02-05-2015 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by 38fountainecman (Post 4260914)
But oh boy what a sun pad!!! I used to camp out for the weekend on mine! Also, there is nothing like starting three engines at the dock. I do agree with RT930 that the length and width of the cabin and cockpit are pretty close, not really noticeable. Mine was certainly a wave crusher, loved the ride of the boat, miss it also.

I've got pics of us checking out the first 419 that we ever saw at the Miami boat show. We couldn't believe how big the sunpad looked....:cool:

RT930turbo 02-05-2015 11:29 PM

It's a solid 6 chick's big, easy. :evilb:

RedDog382 02-05-2015 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by RT930turbo (Post 4261111)
It's a solid 6 chick's big, easy. :evilb:

RT,

I hope you mean 6 solid but not "big" chicks ...

jriggs 02-06-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RT930turbo (Post 4260788)
5'5" 419 vs 5'1" 382 cabin headroom. You gain 4 inches headroom at the entrance. However the length and width are pretty much identical, maybe an inch or three here and there. I tie up next to a 419 fastech every weekend, and the differences have been well observed :)

Cockpit is identical, it's all in the sunpad...

Sunpad is very nice. Stupid swim ladder in the middle of the platform is a giant pain in the azz. Who wouldn't want 4" more of HEAD room.

dba1062 02-11-2015 06:46 PM

aquaforce Any luck with the 419 or the number I gave you from the craigslist ad?

aquaforce 02-11-2015 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dba1062 (Post 4263595)
aquaforce Any luck with the 419 or the number I gave you from the craigslist ad?


Sorry I have not gotten back to you on that info. Yes it was a direct hit. I got the HIN and started researching only to get bummed out on this boat. I love the Torch graphics but the boat seems built for speed and not amenities. It has extension boxes but nothing in the cabin and no gen. Minus the AC and gen is a deal killer for us here in the blistering hot south.

I also found an old auction from back in 6/03 when this boat sold as "wrecked". Not sure exactly what that meant but it sold at an auction less than two years after delivery. I would have qualified the "wrecked" circumstances if the boat was fully optioned to see if it was ok but sadly it is out.

Thanks for your help. I owe you one.


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