The complete 382 thread
#11
On delivery of my boat earlier this summer it was equipped with 34 pitch four blade labs from Merc and the boat would not even get on plane. Also, the right prop would blow out and not stay hooked up and the RPMs would just fly to the top. The left prop would stay hooked up. The dealer has tried multiple props and turned the boat over to me with 5 blade 29 pitch Hydromotives. We immediately found that even with the 5 blade the right prop would still blow out if the sticks were pushed the least little bit firmly/forward. Does this sound like what you're experiencing? .... Leaving some of the story out, we are currently running 32 pitch four blades and the blow out is much better.
#12
Originally posted by wrinkleface
Is anybody having any port listing while running with a 382....
Is anybody having any port listing while running with a 382....
I looked at moving the batteries, but the way Formula wires a boat - no way (too complex). So, I put all my heavy stuff in the right side storage bins and the head. Still have to run about 1/2-point more tab on the por in most cases, though...
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#14
Troutly-
I have the 500EFI's and run labbed 28's, and the Stellings boxes. I tried a pair of 30's and it was a DOG out of the hole and also lost top end (about 6-7MPH). Took them right off and went back to the 28's.
I have the 500EFI's and run labbed 28's, and the Stellings boxes. I tried a pair of 30's and it was a DOG out of the hole and also lost top end (about 6-7MPH). Took them right off and went back to the 28's.
#15
I don't have any lean on my 1999. No air, no boxes.
As I've posted before, I get the same top speed with either labbed 28's and 30's, but at 5000 RPM Vs 5300.
Cruise is 5 MPH higher with the 30's, so they're what I use. I'm sure that acceleration is faster with the 28's, but that's not important to me.
No trouble with either blowing out: I've heard that Thunderbird used a more conservative X-dimension in '99 than in later years.
I've never had any porpoising.
Fuel load does make a several mile per hour difference (75 empty, 72 full up). Tabs up, Drives at 7.
I've had very good results using Throttle Up in Clearwater, FL to do the lab work. They did a better job for less money than Merc did. You ought to give Matt a call and see what he thinks. He's doing several F-2 race boats, including a Formula, I think.
I find it incredible that T'bird would let a boat out their shop that wasn't spot on. You should call them and get help . . . on their nickel.
As I've posted before, I get the same top speed with either labbed 28's and 30's, but at 5000 RPM Vs 5300.
Cruise is 5 MPH higher with the 30's, so they're what I use. I'm sure that acceleration is faster with the 28's, but that's not important to me.
No trouble with either blowing out: I've heard that Thunderbird used a more conservative X-dimension in '99 than in later years.
I've never had any porpoising.
Fuel load does make a several mile per hour difference (75 empty, 72 full up). Tabs up, Drives at 7.
I've had very good results using Throttle Up in Clearwater, FL to do the lab work. They did a better job for less money than Merc did. You ought to give Matt a call and see what he thinks. He's doing several F-2 race boats, including a Formula, I think.
I find it incredible that T'bird would let a boat out their shop that wasn't spot on. You should call them and get help . . . on their nickel.
#16
Originally posted by Troutly
Ha! They run the indicators from 0 to 10 going in to out on the drives and 10 to 0 going up to down on the tabs.....smarty pants!
Did he even attempt to solve the slip issue with his 575's and Stellings??
Ha! They run the indicators from 0 to 10 going in to out on the drives and 10 to 0 going up to down on the tabs.....smarty pants!

Did he even attempt to solve the slip issue with his 575's and Stellings??
The boat was sent to Teague Custom Marine for dial in,
when the boat arrived he sold my buddy on the 800's.
There was a 2003 382 Formula that a dealer was showing around here, it was the same setup as yours, same paint, same motors, same drives etc... The thing that caught my attention with this boat is that they used 5 blade props. I do not know how this boat ran with that setup.
I do know the dealer if you would like to talk with him. But you know those boat salesman
Last edited by hot water; 08-27-2003 at 11:51 AM.
#17
Originally posted by Troutly
I'd love to talk to them. If you don't want to post the name, PM it to me. Thanks
I'd love to talk to them. If you don't want to post the name, PM it to me. Thanks
Name: Delta Pacific Yachts
Rocklin Showroom
Powerboats of Rocklin
4467 Granite Drive
Rocklin, CA 95677
Phone: 916-630-1300
Ask for Peter Wallace
Tell him Allen from Discovery Bay referred you
http://www.yachts2k.com
Good Luck
#18
Troutly - You are probably going to need Hydramotive 5 blade props to correct your prop slip issues. I insure a 382 that was the test bed for the Merc 5 blades and they were the solution. Call me @ 1-800-530-3357 if you want to discuss.
#19
Originally posted by Troutly
........................I can wait until next spring when they will be ready as my boating season will be done in another 1.5 months.....
........................I can wait until next spring when they will be ready as my boating season will be done in another 1.5 months.....
Seriously............Troutly, do you have the March HOTBOAT magazine issue. If not, I'll send it to you.
#20
Troutly,
I have a Formula test on a 383 525 ITS, with 12380 lbs, 31 b1's it ran 75.8 at 5150. That's full gas and two people.
I think with b1 28's and pulling the spacers you should hit 75 light, about 1 or so less than a 382 without all the "accessories".
My 382 slips so bad at low speeds the Corsa sound choice is opening at 25 - 28 mph at 3000. I asked Robt to order a set of Maximus 30's three months ago. Five blades will slow us down maybe 1, and 2-3 more if they are not labbed.
Check your other post, tuning on the rpm issue.
John B
I have a Formula test on a 383 525 ITS, with 12380 lbs, 31 b1's it ran 75.8 at 5150. That's full gas and two people.
I think with b1 28's and pulling the spacers you should hit 75 light, about 1 or so less than a 382 without all the "accessories".
My 382 slips so bad at low speeds the Corsa sound choice is opening at 25 - 28 mph at 3000. I asked Robt to order a set of Maximus 30's three months ago. Five blades will slow us down maybe 1, and 2-3 more if they are not labbed.
Check your other post, tuning on the rpm issue.
John B



