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Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3276498)
Fountain cutting edge? The line-up was unchanged for 10 years! The 42 PR was a new design but they only built a handful. Reggie was instrumental in making them faster, better handling but the boats lacked the "bling" that other manufacturers offer. Fountain remodeled the cabins in 08ish making them look fancier but the boats wouldn't be cutting edge in 2010.
It seems to me every Fountain that left the line was tweaked to the best available for that time. Maybe a little change in X, maybe weight distribution, etc. but the slight changes make even the same hull better year after year. Reggie never seemed to rest on his laurels. I'm a huge fan of Donzi... but it seems to me for the most part Donzi will knock out a hull design, test the crap out of it, and that's that. All future boats are setup based on the initial testing which could be a 10 or more year run. Fountain, to me, are very similar to Corvettes. People *****ed and complained for decades about the crappy interior, rattles, and squeaks. Every time I'd blow away a Porsche, NSX, etc. for half the cost the owners would talk about crappy Corvette interior. What are you going to do, shout to the Fountain that passes you about how ugly his interior is? The Corvette/Fountain owner is thinking to himself, I don't give a crap because I spent a whole lot less and am still faster. Reggie always seemed concerned about the equipment, speed, and safety. Having a hard time finding threads about adding hydraulic steering on someone's Fountain? yeah, me too... because it has been standard for years now while other manufacturers still make it optional. The way I, and some others see it, is my azz doesn't have eyeballs but it knows the difference in feeling between fast and slow as well as how thick my wallet is. |
Originally Posted by VetteLT193
(Post 3277102)
I talked about bottoms and setup, you talk about interior.
It seems to me every Fountain that left the line was tweaked to the best available for that time. Maybe a little change in X, maybe weight distribution, etc. but the slight changes make even the same hull better year after year. Reggie never seemed to rest on his laurels. I'm a huge fan of Donzi... but it seems to me for the most part Donzi will knock out a hull design, test the crap out of it, and that's that. All future boats are setup based on the initial testing which could be a 10 or more year run. Fountain, to me, are very similar to Corvettes. People *****ed and complained for decades about the crappy interior, rattles, and squeaks. Every time I'd blow away a Porsche, NSX, etc. for half the cost the owners would talk about crappy Corvette interior. What are you going to do, shout to the Fountain that passes you about how ugly his interior is? The Corvette/Fountain owner is thinking to himself, I don't give a crap because I spent a whole lot less and am still faster. Reggie always seemed concerned about the equipment, speed, and safety. Having a hard time finding threads about adding hydraulic steering on someone's Fountain? yeah, me too... because it has been standard for years now while other manufacturers still make it optional. The way I, and some others see it, is my azz doesn't have eyeballs but it knows the difference in feeling between fast and slow as well as how thick my wallet is. Great analogy.....Corvettes and Fountains, both very good performers at reasonable prices (compared to competition). I wasn't knocking Fountain, just not agreeing they were cutting edge. Reggie brought back the Executioner line and the ICBM line which looked like the originals. Not sure re-issuing a former model would be considered "cutting edge." Staggered 35 that cracked 100 w/525's was impressive for sure. The bottoms performed great but the paint, vinyl, windshields, cabins, etc were time warp stuff (as in get in a new one and you felt like 1989 all over again). |
Fountain or Fountain By Reggie
Kinda like Baja or Baja By Fountain. :D |
Originally Posted by VetteLT193
(Post 3277102)
I talked about bottoms and setup, you talk about interior.
It seems to me every Fountain that left the line was tweaked to the best available for that time. Maybe a little change in X, maybe weight distribution, etc. but the slight changes make even the same hull better year after year. Reggie never seemed to rest on his laurels. I'm a huge fan of Donzi... but it seems to me for the most part Donzi will knock out a hull design, test the crap out of it, and that's that. All future boats are setup based on the initial testing which could be a 10 or more year run. Fountain, to me, are very similar to Corvettes. People *****ed and complained for decades about the crappy interior, rattles, and squeaks. Every time I'd blow away a Porsche, NSX, etc. for half the cost the owners would talk about crappy Corvette interior. What are you going to do, shout to the Fountain that passes you about how ugly his interior is? The Corvette/Fountain owner is thinking to himself, I don't give a crap because I spent a whole lot less and am still faster. Reggie always seemed concerned about the equipment, speed, and safety. Having a hard time finding threads about adding hydraulic steering on someone's Fountain? yeah, me too... because it has been standard for years now while other manufacturers still make it optional. The way I, and some others see it, is my azz doesn't have eyeballs but it knows the difference in feeling between fast and slow as well as how thick my wallet is. well said. period, not just on the brand aspect either... |
Originally Posted by Kelly O
(Post 3276603)
May want to look a little closer at the 09's that were built. Not many were, the ones out there earn respect everywhere they show up.
Agreed Kelly! Your boat is a perfect example of what has been coming out of Founain for the last coupe years. The custom paint with the real wow factor, billet hardware up the azz, the custom cockpit, the custom touches just go on and on. Not to mention those 6's hanging off the azz of that thing, and the numbers it will run. Any Fountain over the years has, in my opinion, always earned respect at the dock, and even more so on the water. |
Originally Posted by VetteLT193
(Post 3277102)
I talked about bottoms and setup, you talk about interior.
It seems to me every Fountain that left the line was tweaked to the best available for that time. Maybe a little change in X, maybe weight distribution, etc. but the slight changes make even the same hull better year after year. Reggie never seemed to rest on his laurels. I'm a huge fan of Donzi... but it seems to me for the most part Donzi will knock out a hull design, test the crap out of it, and that's that. All future boats are setup based on the initial testing which could be a 10 or more year run. Fountain, to me, are very similar to Corvettes. People *****ed and complained for decades about the crappy interior, rattles, and squeaks. Every time I'd blow away a Porsche, NSX, etc. for half the cost the owners would talk about crappy Corvette interior. What are you going to do, shout to the Fountain that passes you about how ugly his interior is? The Corvette/Fountain owner is thinking to himself, I don't give a crap because I spent a whole lot less and am still faster. Reggie always seemed concerned about the equipment, speed, and safety. Having a hard time finding threads about adding hydraulic steering on someone's Fountain? yeah, me too... because it has been standard for years now while other manufacturers still make it optional. The way I, and some others see it, is my azz doesn't have eyeballs but it knows the difference in feeling between fast and slow as well as how thick my wallet is. Good comparison. Personally I am not a blingy guy, I can appreciate the custom touches, the things people do when customizing their boat to their tastes. But simple and functional with a classy look draws my eye more often than not. What surely will trip my trigger every time is how well a hull handles, will it run out straight and true, in control regardless of what you throw at it. For me this has always been where the Fountains shine. It is hard to match one in these terms anywhere near the same money. Fancy chit makes for great talk on the dock, my this and my that. Bring it on out here and let's see what it's made of has always been the real deal for me. I have yet to see a fancy blingy thingy that made a boat faster, better handling, or safer. |
Originally Posted by VetteLT193
(Post 3277102)
I talked about bottoms and setup, you talk about interior.
It seems to me every Fountain that left the line was tweaked to the best available for that time. Maybe a little change in X, maybe weight distribution, etc. but the slight changes make even the same hull better year after year. Reggie never seemed to rest on his laurels. I'm a huge fan of Donzi... but it seems to me for the most part Donzi will knock out a hull design, test the crap out of it, and that's that. All future boats are setup based on the initial testing which could be a 10 or more year run. Fountain, to me, are very similar to Corvettes. People *****ed and complained for decades about the crappy interior, rattles, and squeaks. Every time I'd blow away a Porsche, NSX, etc. for half the cost the owners would talk about crappy Corvette interior. What are you going to do, shout to the Fountain that passes you about how ugly his interior is? The Corvette/Fountain owner is thinking to himself, I don't give a crap because I spent a whole lot less and am still faster. Reggie always seemed concerned about the equipment, speed, and safety. Having a hard time finding threads about adding hydraulic steering on someone's Fountain? yeah, me too... because it has been standard for years now while other manufacturers still make it optional. The way I, and some others see it, is my azz doesn't have eyeballs but it knows the difference in feeling between fast and slow as well as how thick my wallet is. |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3277162)
I wasn't knocking Fountain, just not agreeing they were cutting edge. Reggie brought back the Executioner line and the ICBM line which looked like the originals. Not sure re-issuing a former model would be considered "cutting edge."
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3277162)
Staggered 35 that cracked 100 w/525's was impressive for sure. The bottoms performed great but the paint, vinyl, windshields, cabins, etc were time warp stuff (as in get in a new one and you felt like 1989 all over again).
Out of intrest I pulled up some classifieds of Sunsations? Are you kidding me? http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...&f=36372_6.jpg http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...&f=35676_2.jpg Great interior if it was 1975... |
Originally Posted by Jupiter Sunsation
(Post 3277162)
Great analogy.....Corvettes and Fountains, both very good performers at reasonable prices (compared to competition).
I wasn't knocking Fountain, just not agreeing they were cutting edge. Reggie brought back the Executioner line and the ICBM line which looked like the originals. Not sure re-issuing a former model would be considered "cutting edge." Staggered 35 that cracked 100 w/525's was impressive for sure. The bottoms performed great but the paint, vinyl, windshields, cabins, etc were time warp stuff (as in get in a new one and you felt like 1989 all over again). I want to switch brands due to the performance and helm setup, cant be beat. No fountain is not the "working mans" performance boat.. way higher end I dont know too many working Joe's who can shell out 250k + for a new 35 or 38 lightning. :angry-smiley-038: Lower end is Baja, sunsation, etc. :drink: |
Originally Posted by Kelly O
(Post 3276603)
May want to look a little closer at the 09's that were built. Not many were, the ones out there earn respect everywhere they show up.
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