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bcfountain 01-31-2012 03:33 PM

seen alot of top fuel and other drag racing motors blow up,but never saw a gas powered motor go like that.pretty cool.

Young Performance 01-31-2012 04:30 PM

I believe it was a deisel.

thirdchildhood 01-31-2012 06:52 PM

You can hear it start to falter at 16 seconds. They should have cut the throttle.

bcfountain 01-31-2012 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3606384)
I believe it was a deisel.

pui,,,,,,posting under the influence,my mistake.

carcommander 01-31-2012 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by bcfountain (Post 3606335)
seen alot of top fuel and other drag racing motors blow up,but never saw a gas powered motor go like that.pretty cool.

Pretty cool unless it was your wallet that blew up with it.

PARADISE ISLAND 02-02-2012 10:50 AM

I watched my motors on a Dyno a few times you always think that blow up is going to happen:hitfan:

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 02-09-2012 01:23 PM

Well?

Lemme guess. Game change. 1300's and Arnesons?

Young Performance 02-10-2012 08:23 AM

Close!!!:poopoo:

TRL505 02-14-2012 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by 1 MAIDEN AMERICA (Post 3613565)
Well?

Lemme guess. Game change. 1300's and Arnesons?

Not quite that extreme...but we are "adding" a thing or two to get a lil more HP....why not? :evilb: Engines are back from Machine shop this week. Eddie is going to Miami and said he would get on em next week. Still several weeks out till completion. Still shooting for an April/May completion date.

As far as the work left to be done @ FPM ..I spoke with Lil R last week and he is on it...he will be done with his stuff way before the engines are complete.

575cat 02-15-2012 09:26 AM

Eric are they upgrading the fuel system and what else are they doing ??

Plowtownmissile 02-15-2012 10:31 AM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3618158)
Eric are they upgrading the fuel system ??

If they don't, the new motors are gonna go pop like the old ones.

Young Performance 02-15-2012 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by Plowtownmissile (Post 3618209)
If they don't, the new motors are gonna go pop like the old ones.


No they won't. I won't let it happen.:drink: I'm not the least bit afraid to say stop and put it back on the trailer. That's why I will be there when it gets run for the first few times. I want to be 100% sure that everything is perfect.
Im absolutely confident that the guys at Fountain will have it ready to go. We have talked several times and everyone is on the same page as to what the boat needs to be reliable. I'm sure they will get it all done. I will be there to check everything before the engines are even started for the first time, so I will know immediately if the fuel system is sufficient.
I do this for every engine that I don't install. It's the only way that I have found to make sure the customer gets what he wants and what he payed for.....a reliable running engine. It's a pain sometimes to fly all over the country, but it needs to be done for the ones that I don't install. That's another reason that we only build about 20 engines a year. I can only do so much. It really limits the amount of money I can make but that's OK with me. It also really limits the problems, comebacks and failures. I build them, so no one knows them better what they want and need better than I.
I'll get some pics up as soon as we get back from Miami and start the prep work prior to assembly.
Eddie

thirdchildhood 02-15-2012 04:43 PM

You could do the work for free if he puts giant "Young Performance Marine" decals on the boat :) .

KWright 02-15-2012 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3618514)
No they won't. I won't let it happen.:drink: I'm not the least bit afraid to say stop and put it back on the trailer. That's why I will be there when it gets run for the first few times. I want to be 100% sure that everything is perfect.
Im absolutely confident that the guys at Fountain will have it ready to go. We have talked several times and everyone is on the same page as to what the boat needs to be reliable. I'm sure they will get it all done. I will be there to check everything before the engines are even started for the first time, so I will know immediately if the fuel system is sufficient.
I do this for every engine that I don't install. It's the only way that I have found to make sure the customer gets what he wants and what he payed for.....a reliable running engine. It's a pain sometimes to fly all over the country, but it needs to be done for the ones that I don't install. That's another reason that we only build about 20 engines a year. I can only do so much. It really limits the amount of money I can make but that's OK with me. It also really limits the problems, comebacks and failures. I build them, so no one knows them better what they want and need better than I.
I'll get some pics up as soon as we get back from Miami and start the prep work prior to assembly.
Eddie

Sounds like you have a good handle on the situation, and also care about your reputation. Nice to hear.

Plowtownmissile 02-15-2012 07:30 PM

Eddie, that's great to hear. I have no doubt the boat will run amazing. After seeing the pictures of the fuel lines and fittings that were used when the last engines popped, I can't see them being able to feed one of your motors either.

TRL505 02-15-2012 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 3618529)
You could do the work for free if he puts giant "Young Performance Marine" decals on the boat :) .

I will tattoo it on my face......:lolhit:

TRL505 02-15-2012 07:39 PM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3618158)
Eric are they upgrading the fuel system and what else are they doing ??

Yeah Dean...the fuel system is getting totally re-done. We are also ditching the Distributers and going distributerless ignition....takes all the gremlins out. We are eliminating the rear saddle tanks in essence. They will still be left in place but to save a little money on switching valves we decided not to return the fuel to the tanks on the saddles...only on the main tanks are we doing this. Other than all the hull blueprinting and drive raising that FPM did..this about covers it...I think.

The only thing that will slow us down is the SCX lowers...apparently I dont have the pull with IMCO that you do.

:lolhit::lolhit::lolhit:

Plowtownmissile 02-15-2012 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Young Performance (Post 3548508)
We just pulled in. We covered right at 1300 miles in about 30 hours. I'm done.
I did find a few no-no's in the boat. I took a bunch of pics but left my cable at the shop. I will post some on Monday so everyone can see where some of the problems lie. None of them are really major in themselves, but combined can result in some big problems or an engine failure. The main issues were as follows:
-the switching valves to change from the saddle tanks to the main tanks. The valves are not full flow ball valves. Also, the mulitude of 90* brass fittings are VERY restrictive. There are several 90* brass fittings coupled together to make 180* and 270* turns. They are small, sharp turning brass fittings that don't flow very good at all.
-the fuel needs to be returned to the tank instead of the suction side of the pump.
-The fuel filter head is to small and restrictive.
All of these items would have been fine with the original 525's and probably never caused any problems. However, with the power in the boat now, these issues are very important and must be addressed.
We are going to dig into the engines on Monday and see what we have to work with.
I have not nor will I turn this into a pissing match pitting myself against Tyler. I really appreciate him reaching out to me and offering help. I very well may take you up on that Tyler. At this point, you know the entire rig much better than I. There is always more than one way to get the job done. I am going to do what works for me. That doesn't mean that Tyler, or anyone else's, way will not or can not work. Tyler has been at this for a long time and didn't get to where he is by not doing something right.
I am just going to focus on doing what I do best and what works for me. I will keep everyone posted as we progress.
Thank you.
Eddie

Just found this post. I was amazed as Eddie at that nightmare of a fuel system.

Young Performance 02-15-2012 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Plowtownmissile (Post 3618677)
Eddie, that's great to hear. I have no doubt the boat will run amazing. After seeing the pictures of the fuel lines and fittings that were used when the last engines popped, I can't see them being able to feed one of your motors either.

I was quite surprised when I saw it. That's why I offered to go pick the engines up. I wanted to see it all for myself so I could see what I had to work with. I didn't want to find out that the fuel system, or anything else for that matter, wasn't sufficient after the engines were in it and we were ready to go run it. It's tough coming in on a project that is this far along and has had several people's hands in it.
We spent a few hours climbing around in the boat at RF's checking over everything to be sure that whatever wasn't right can get fixed. I don't like surprises.
Thanks everyone for your support. We are going to get it right.
Eddie

575cat 02-15-2012 09:41 PM

I know Eric I dont know what to do about the saddle tanks I guess I will just leave them in for now I have them plumed in with the imco electric switching valves so the return follows the tank its sucking from , not good just leaving fuel sit in them just for reserve I will have to suck out what is in them now that fuel has to be 10 mo + old . I cant wait to here how yours runs out yours will probably get wet before mine touches the water . maybe I asked this before but what gears and props are you going to start with ?

mcprodesign 02-15-2012 11:45 PM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3618823)
I know Eric I dont know what to do about the saddle tanks I guess I will just leave them in for now I have them plumed in with the imco electric switching valves so the return follows the tank its sucking from , not good just leaving fuel sit in them just for reserve I will have to suck out what is in them now that fuel has to be 10 mo + old . I cant wait to here how yours runs out yours will probably get wet before mine touches the water . maybe I asked this before but what gears and props are you going to start with ?

I know what gears I'm gonna start with :D Everything made it here ok. My drive guy say's we can put your old Port drive on my starboard and vice versa. It will be like new gears ( They all look great anyway) Thanks again for the drive set up. .
Carry on . sorry to step in w my crap. :D

TRL505 02-16-2012 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3618823)
I know Eric I dont know what to do about the saddle tanks I guess I will just leave them in for now I have them plumed in with the imco electric switching valves so the return follows the tank its sucking from , not good just leaving fuel sit in them just for reserve I will have to suck out what is in them now that fuel has to be 10 mo + old . I cant wait to here how yours runs out yours will probably get wet before mine touches the water . maybe I asked this before but what gears and props are you going to start with ?

1.5's and 6 blade 17" 38 Herrings I believe. They might be 39's?? Its been so long since I saw them on the boat..I forgot. The gears may have to be swapped out now...we shall see.

What are you running?

mcprodesign 02-16-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3619083)
1.5's and 6 blade 17" 38 Herrings I believe. They might be 39's?? Its been so long since I saw them on the boat..I forgot. The gears may have to be swapped out now...we shall see.

What are you running?

he's probly gonna spin 40 x 18's . With the power he's got :D

1 MAIDEN AMERICA 02-16-2012 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3619083)
1.5's and 6 blade 17" 38 Herrings I believe. They might be 39's?? Its been so long since I saw them on the boat..I forgot. The gears may have to be swapped out now...we shall see.

What are you running?

17's you say. Isn't that the max on the -4's? Didjya, didjya?
Or are you spacing the standards down?

Reggie Fountain 02-16-2012 08:09 PM

No 17s will fit on the regular scx.

A.O. Razor 02-17-2012 04:00 PM


Originally Posted by Reggie Fountain (Post 3619616)
No 17s will fit on the regular scx.

Stock length cases, no spacers? What is the x on SCX drives?

Reggie Fountain 02-17-2012 06:34 PM

No spaces, x is pretty high.

mcprodesign 02-19-2012 12:32 AM

SAw this boat today.. Looks prettty damn good ! How much H,P, is it gonna have anyway

A.O. Razor 02-19-2012 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Reggie Fountain (Post 3620343)
No spaces, x is pretty high.

I meant x from input to prop shaft. I know the B1 is 21.13/16" and can spin 16".

TRL505 02-21-2012 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3621122)
SAw this boat today.. Looks prettty damn good ! How much H,P, is it gonna have anyway

Shooting for 1000HP+....Eddie has to work his magic. Relativley small displacement (555ci) and small blower (3.3l) might make it a little of a challange...we will see.

mcprodesign 02-21-2012 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3623212)
Shooting for 1000HP+....Eddie has to work his magic. Relativley small displacement (555ci) and small blower (3.3l) might make it a little of a challange...we will see.

You and 575 are gonna make a hell of a race. Although he has a lightning and you have an ex. You looking to run 120 plus?

575cat 02-22-2012 09:23 AM

I dont think Ericks scx lowers will even be near the water at speed to cause drag .

Pokher Ace 02-22-2012 10:12 AM

How high up are you going again?

TCBoss302 02-22-2012 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Pokher Ace (Post 3623935)
How high up are you going again?

To da moon!! Imco would have to call them -9's.:eek:

575cat 02-22-2012 11:20 AM

Till the blade tips contact the underside of the platform :eekdrop:

triple 300s 02-22-2012 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3623998)
Till the blade tips contact the underside of the platform :eekdrop:

Their platform has already taken a few hits from flying blades. Just picture those silver carp that jump into boats all the time, but with prop blades...I always rode down in the cabin. lol :band:

mcprodesign 02-22-2012 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by 575cat (Post 3623882)
I dont think Ericks scx lowers will even be near the water at speed to cause drag .

It would be a drag if the lowers never touched the water for sure .:lolhit: But he has Fountain Performance Marine and co involved. His boat is gonna sing . I wish my rig was over at their shop.

mcprodesign 02-23-2012 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by TRL505 (Post 3623212)
Shooting for 1000HP+....Eddie has to work his magic. Relativley small displacement (555ci) and small blower (3.3l) might make it a little of a challange...we will see.

you gotta fly in and do the Reggie Fountain experience

triple 300s 02-23-2012 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3624766)
you gotta fly in and do the Reggie Fountain experience

they did that the first time.......

TRL505 02-23-2012 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by mcprodesign (Post 3623576)
You and 575 are gonna make a hell of a race. Although he has a lightning and you have an ex. You looking to run 120 plus?

Both have same hulls....


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