You my friend....are spot on!!!!

Nah, not really, I was just curious about the choice of drive. But, yes, I guess I did partly ask because I think a 1000 hp is alot for any kind of Bravo style drive.

I know that it isn't. Just interested in why you picked the SCX over the Arnesons, or another surface drive for that matter.

Again, I hope you'll get everything working and have a great season.

Have you ever wondered where the term "Blown" comes from? :lolhit:


All kidding aside hope it all works out here, can be a very frustrating deal when you are in the middle of it.

^^ that would be a rare engine indeed. Maybe they are running small boost, 1psi :lolhit:
Even if the engines last anything with a blower tends to cause more headaches and need more frequent/extensive maintenance. So why do I still want a Fountain with 600's :angry-smiley-038:

SCX's internals on both upper and lower are a far cry from a standard bravo style drive...but you are correct..we are pushing the limits for sure.

Thank you!!

Can't sleep, so I read this entire thread. WOW. I really feel for you TRL. I can't imagine. I'm sorry you are having the problems that you are having. Just revel in the fact that it can't last forever.(at least I don't think).
Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. I'm certainly not trying to solicite your business. I just feel terrible for you and would like to see you running your boat before you have to be committed or file bankruptcy. I would absolutely be glad to help in any way I can. Good luck buddy.
Eddie

PM sent.

Thank you Eddie!

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Eddie[/QUOTE]

Or worse. I hope he doesn't own a gun.

Unfortunately (or not, depending on how you look at it), not most have the patience that TRL has. I hate to see anyone have the problems he has had with a boat, car, motorcycle, whatever. It takes something that they have a passion for and just ruins it. There have been a bunch of guys that have permanetly left boating over 20% of the problems he has had. I would hate to see that happen since this sport needs everyone of us to keep it going. Ultimitely, the more people that continue this sport, the better it is for me, whether they are directly my customers or not. Because of them, I may get work from it at some point in time. It's not all about that though. It's more about doing something that you love to do, or continuing to do it even after a setback like this. Eventually it will all come together. Hang in there.

Eddie

I drink a lot.......:evilb:

I do......lots of them. :violent-smiley-045::waffen093::violent-smiley-021::blaster:

That should be incentive for someone to get you up and running.

i would put it in my mouth...:lolhit:

Eric,
It was great to speak with you and Gavin today. For what you guys have went through, I am amazed that you have kept an upbeat spirit. VERY few people would have the same attitude in your position.
Hope to speak with you again in the near future. If not, good luck with the boat. I really wish you guys the best.
Eddie

I'm sure things are not quite that bad. WTF it's only a boat project gone south. Not the first, for sure not the last.

I hear for $20 your not bad either:evilb:

this is a little insulting....











I am worth more than $20....

back to our regular program , whats going on with this boat ?

Tyler builds some real nice stuff once they get it right I'm guessing he'll be very happy!:drink:

We r working w RF to find another engine builder. At this point after 4 yrs its best that we part ways w Tyler. Too many issues and i dont want this to go any further south than it already has. Maybe someone else can remedy the situation...God knows Tyler tried...but it jus wasnt in the cards on this go around. Will keep u all updated on who we go with. We have narrowed it down two two builders. Thank u all again for ur support through this mess.

Eddie...i cant tell u how much we appreciate u taking the time to talk w me and my bro. Its rare in this industry that someone will take as much time as u did...without wanting a down payment. Your candor and straight forward approach is rare as well. Thank u again...and we will be in touch!!!

So are you looking for someone to get your current engines up and running or are you giving up on them and having new mills built?

TRL...

i was at wits end with my engine.....but after a short visit from Eddie..Alls Great again..

Eddie is definatley ya guy..

Can't say enough about Eddie and how much of a stand up guy he is..

Q

Good luck to you as this project goes forward !
ed

Likely has nothing to do with the engines, its the fuel system and tune that is killing them. Drop the Merc EFI or find someone that can tune them to live. Eddie can handle that...

Eddie is your man.

I know of a couple recent situations very similar to yours.....Eddie is the right man for your project

I'd stick with carbs, avoid EFI.

It really sounds to me like electrical issues. Doesn't take much noise to confuse software. And confused software acting on noise can easily over lean a given injector. Or, noise on the line from the ECU to the injector can also result in no or too little fuel. The higher the power, the less the safety factor, so a little problem results in big dollars.

I'm curious to see what another engine builder/tuner finds out here...

I thought Tyler had a good rep, wonder what happened here.

+1

What else$$$$$??Just a guess but I don't want any trash talkin heard good things about all involved!i'm lost with all this programming stuff also!:party-smiley-004:

While you are correct on some level, it's not that bad. The older Mefi 3's were susceptable to RF interference (not Reggie Fountain:lolhit:) Most all of the issues with interference were caused by MSD boxes. Merc didn't have any problems with it since they didn't use an MSD box. They used that ecm for about 10 years without issue. The newer Mefi 4's do not have that problem. I don't know of anyone that has had an engine failure do to interference.
About 98% of the engines I build are efi. I surely wouldn't be building them or using a Mefi if I thought the potential was there for a failure do to interference. At the level that this owner is at, efi is the way to go. A 1000+ hp carb engine will not have the protection (especially knock protection), drivabilty, economy, resale, etc as an efi engine.
At this point, I have a good idea of where the problem(s) lie, but I can't say for sure. What I can say is that there is NO good reason that this engine shouldn't go for 300 hours. This engine is nothing new, nor is it ground breaking technology. This has been done before many, many times.
While I occasionally appreciate the simplicity of a carb engine, converting it to a carb would be a crime.
Eddie

well said

I felt really good about my carb motors until this, sh!t Eddie, I'm skeeert now........:eek:

I'm not talking about RF interference, although that does happen too sometimes. I'm talking about lousy and/or corroded connectors and wires.

The vast majority of electrical issues are due to connectors. Wires get involved as water and corrosion starts to seep under the insulation, generally starting at a connector. Corroded copper can lead to cross talk.

You are right, there are lots of similar motors out there. That's why assuming its mechanical seems very unlikely.

Everything I have seen from Eddie is top notch and he is a class act. I don't think you can go wrong with YPM.

Your's are an exception to the drivability. I would put them against any efi engine any day of the week for drivability. Obviously, you don't have the knock protection, but that engine is not making the power that we are talking about here. Don't sweat it. Get a boat, let's put em in and beat on em for a while.
Eddie

Our harnesses use marine wire (tin coated) that has a covering that is impervious to water intrusion. Also, every connector is a weather-pak type connector that is water proof. There is a water proof boot on both ends of the plugs. We also apply dielectric grease to the plugs before we plug them it. Any terminated wire that uses a crimp type connector has a tin coated end that is then completely covered in adhesive lined heat shrink tubing.
Although that will not completely eliminate any corrosion issues, it's cut them to an almost non-existent level. I have some harnesses that are over 7 years old that don't have any corrosion on them yet after being in salt water that long. I'm not saying it can't happen. I just saying that we take as many precautions as we can to prevent it from ever happening.
However, I do understand what you are trying to say.
Eddie

Thank you very much Envision.
And thank you everyone else for the vote of confidence. It really means a lot to me.
Eddie