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Old 02-03-2012 | 08:29 PM
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Here she is completely done. We're still trying out what prop to use. This time I used a Labbed 26 Bravo 1. I got 78 of the GPS and a little over 6000rpm. I was really impressed with the acceleration and how easily it got on the plane but I'm sure I should be getting a little more on the top end. Maybe a bravo 28? Maybe a shorter outdrive with a 5 bladed prop. Any ideas? By the way way I had the outdrive trimmed out to about 5 1/2 at WOT and I even think I could have trimmed it out a little more. Also I was by myself and I had a little over 3/4 tank of fuel.

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Old 02-03-2012 | 08:57 PM
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What a sweet setup you have. What is the r.p.m. range of this monster motor? As I have Bravo 1 26 pitch props on my little 6.2s I'm guessing you will need to step up to at least a 28 pitch. Please keep posting your test results.
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Old 02-04-2012 | 01:02 PM
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Too cool! So pretty!
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Old 02-04-2012 | 03:45 PM
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29s with 525s run about 78, so you should be 83-84 at top end when dialed in right.

Sounds like you need a prop with more bow lift if you had to trim up that much. Not sure what the V10 is supposed to run at WOT (5800?) but a 28in prop with more bow lift should get you running faster and keep your RPMS up.

I dont think you need a shorty lower yet since guys are running 29s with 575s in the 80s with a stock lower.

That motor looks bad ass crammed in there, great project
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Old 03-14-2012 | 09:00 PM
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Default Prop Help

OK so I finally got a chance to prop test a labbed bravo 1 28 and I was not impressed. 5800 RPM at WOT but only 79 mph and 20 seconds to plane with no tabs with just me and half tank of fuel. I got the same mph out of a Bravo 1 26 at 6000 rpm and much faster to get on the plane!!! WHAT AM I DOING WRONG!!! My performance sheet from the factory said that my boat came from the factory with a Merc 525 and standard length Bravo 1 XR with a Bravo 1 28p prop and got the same speed. Troy thinks I should try a 1 inch shorter lower outdrive with a 5 bladed prop like a Merc Maximus.

So what do you guys think???

I'm not sure what my x dimension is to be honest but I guess I should probably figure it out.



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Old 03-14-2012 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Spinletto
My performance sheet from the factory said...
I'm not sure what my x dimension is to be honest but I guess I should probably figure it out.
Well, if you have the original Fountain Performance Report, the X dim should be there.
Was the boat built with a l/h prop?
Many single 27 and 29 were built that way, but not all.
Maximus props are not known for better top end than B1, anyway.
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Old 03-14-2012 | 10:04 PM
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Why not contact Brett Anderson at BBlades. He is one of the supporting vendors on this site. [email protected]
He has a prop loaner program and has also been very responsive to email or forum questions.
Fountain has advertised the 29' Fever w/525 as having a top speed of 75-80. It would seem your setup would be 3-5 m.p.h. faster.
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Old 03-15-2012 | 09:29 AM
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Several years ago I changed from Bravo1 ,4 blade prop to a Hydromotive 4 blade, it is more of a
stern lifter prop, same pitch, I gained speed on top end, and much less trim is needed, I would think you have plenty of bow lift , my good friend has the same boat as you w/ 525 EFI, 26 Bravo 1 prop, his bow runs high at wot.
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Old 03-15-2012 | 01:00 PM
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Thanks for the info guys. I don't want anyone to think that I'm unimpressed with the Ilmor I'm just a little fusterated trying to get this thing dialed in right. 79-80 is pretty good but I think I can get at least a couple more mph out of it once it's setup right.

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Old 03-15-2012 | 01:21 PM
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Default Prop slip calculations

http://www.mercuryracing.com/propell...calculator.php

Assuming: Your labbed 28 has pitch added =28.5
1.5 Gear ratio
5800 RPMs is accurate
79mph is GPS
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Your prop slip is 24%, way too high. There was a thread on here, think it was also a 29 Fountain where he actually increased speed and lowered prop slip by LOWERING the drive. If you can get your prop slip down to 12-16% you will see much higher speeds... sounds like you need to try different props or maybe a 1" spacer in the drive.. I would have thought that setup could spin a 30, maybe with a bit of pitch removed. Good luck!
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