[QUOTE=VoodooRob;4512219]Not true. Retail price for a new Donzi, Fountain, Baja twin I/O is the same as 10


"Creative financing" has nothing to do with retail cost of a new boat.
Well maybe a little, it helped people buy these new over priced boats even if they really couldn't afford them which helped manufacturers keep new prices inflated. Without 40% down a new boat owner was upside down from day one.
To be able to buy a 4 year old boat with minimal hours for .60 on the 1.00 well........

Fountain has a branding issue down the road if they plan to continue. The hull design with the beak and low slung aft end is their image, has been for close to thirty years and may be getting a bit old. People are buying the used boats because the prices are approachable and they like the design. People also buy old Corvettes,Ferrari's and Porsche's but new different ones are being built for those customers wanting the brand in new clothing unlike Fountain.
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Maybe, just maybe there's no one left to design a new hull.

just look at the new cockpit interior of the new 38 and that will answer your question

The new 38 cockpit is hideous. The 09 cabin with the wood and the 07+ cockpit were good looking. I don't think it's a hull isssue. These are still some of the most efficient hulls out there. I mean cig hasn't changed their external appearance in eons. Paint and interiors will do it. They screwed the pooch on that 38.

On top of that as far as pricing goes I'd love to know the exact cost of the 565/xr package. Merc pricing is high. Likely around 50k or more for each motor/drive

The times are changing and the new big boys want the new big names in the industry. Not that fountain is not a good boat aby more but when we where growing up for me it was always like oh wow there go's a fountain or a cig. Now days its the ol's and the nortech's that get that a bit more. So yes if you are going to spend 500k on a boat I would pick the ol or nortech that may be older over the fountain or cig. Just my thoughts

Nortech isn't even building much in the way of V performance boats right now. There are people who will buy older for the same and there are people who will buy new. Always been that way. I think the 38 may have sold already if it had better paint, cockpit and cabin.

Maybe this will help them to start selling

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UWkxd9KJ1uk

Lol

That lightning is priced way outta my league,but even if I could afford it those fountain logos plastered all over it would have to go. Everyone recognizes a fountain. And you have to question the two front seats.They just don't say 428k. And one of my gripes is that the front hatch on Fountains has always looked like an afterthought. The fit and finish is all wrong.Just glass it over....I don't use it anyway.

Most likely bucause the 565NA powered Fountain would still walk off and leave the 1100hp Nortech.