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Old 04-11-2005, 07:48 PM
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2005 w/525s with trailer anywhere from 350 to 360K depending on options...
I was recently quoted 360K for a 2005 Fountain Lightning 42' with 525's
(which actually looks a lot more like a 37')

I think Fountains and Cigarettes are about the same price when you do the "beak and platform conversion math". The question is should a Cigarette and a Fountain be priced the same>?

My take is a 2005 42' Fountain Lightning ought go for more like $275...what is my logic? My logic is simple...that's what I would pay for it.

I also am fine with the Cigarette 38' Gun with 525's at around $350.

The 30' Vice is a true 34' boat and it should go for around 180K with 525's. that's all I would pay as it is an 8' beam boat.

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Old 04-11-2005, 08:02 PM
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I have an '04 30' Advantage Victory w/496ho's I will sell for a measly 150K!
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The 30' Vice is a true 34' boat and it should go for around 180K with 525's. that's all I would pay as it is an 8' beam boat.

am i missing something? the cig website says the vice is 30' LOA.... most of their boats are rounded up a few inches except the gladiator which is actually 36'11".... i am not seeing where the vice is any more than a "true" 30'...

and aren't all cig's 8' beam?

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Old 04-11-2005, 08:07 PM
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I have a problem with this boat...who wants to throw down $200k and be told you just bought a starter boat.
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am i missing something? the cig website says the vice is 30' LOA.... most of their boats are rounded up a few inches except the gladiator which is actually 36'11".... i am not seeing where the vice is any more than a "true" 30'...

and aren't all cig's 8' beam?
DITTO WTH are you getting the other four feet ??
200K for a 30 footer is rediculous !! I dont care what you call it ..Its a 30 footer with bravos period.
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DITTO WTH are you getting the other four feet ??
200K for a 30 footer is rediculous !! I dont care what you call it ..Its a 30 footer with bravos period.

a beak can measure 2-2 1/2 feet and a built in platform 2-2 1/2 feet.

It's a true 30'er.....but if it had a beak and platform more like 34-35'.....just trying to compare apples to apples is all.

A 35' beak goes for around 200+K....

..that's all I was trying to say ...

all Cigs seem to have 8' beams while beak boats have somewhat wider beams..

My point is that Fountain is now priced at about the same price as a Cigarette. My question....should they be?

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am i missing something? the cig website says the vice is 30' LOA.... most of their boats are rounded up a few inches except the gladiator which is actually 36'11".... i am not seeing where the vice is any more than a "true" 30'...

and aren't all cig's 8' beam?

Yes.. and the Vice cockpit...so I am told... has the same beam and bolsters as the Gun. I think I was told it is only slightly smaller than the Gun cockpit as well....
It is a true 30 boat. Rob did tell me that it is very very close to the same "overall" size as a 35X and is a good boat to compare the Vice to as far as ergos.....
Hydro... 360K for a new 42L is a HUGE forkin!!!
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Hydro... 360K for a new 42L is a HUGE fu ckin!!![/QUOTE]
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That's what I told the dealer...42' Lightening with T-525's for 360K plus tax = the boat stays in your showroom. period.

I will buy a 38' Gun as soon as my options strike.
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you can pick up a 36 nor-tech w/ 525's for around 300K...
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