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I know someone who just bought a boat.
This boat may have been a boat that was for sale along time and was well know on the board as being a fraud.
The questions is, would you check to see if what he bought was indeed the fake and would you bring it to his attention, possibly ruining his experience?
Or would you just let it go and let the next buyer beware?

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Uh oh :eek:

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BTW, if you vote in the pole... its assumed you think Allan4 is a putz. :D

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LOL...

he ain't on these boards... is he?

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if he is a friend i would tell him.... if you just know the guy, maybe you tell one of his friends and let him worry about it..... :D

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No

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I think it probably depends on what you mean by fraud, if it's something that makes the boat unsafe(say a boat that was damaged and not repaired correctly) then most definitely they should be told if it's just that the motors don't make the horsepower stated in the adds it probably doesn't matter. If it was fraud by the previous owner then you should tell them in a timely matter so they can take any legal recourse available to them.


Caleb

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Yeah what he said :D

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I agree

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Yup

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Agreed...
Safety should take priority. Motors not what they said, hull a knock-off then maybe just bite your tongue.
Russ C.

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The best thing that I have found to do in these situations is tell em what you know, if they argue then leave it alone. You aint a friend if you don't try and tell em though.

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hey if it is the boat i just bought i would want to know.
PLEASE tell me it's not the boat i just bought.

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Uh, buddy, it ain't really a skater. :eek:

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agreed

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So tell Mascara that ronnies boat is sh1t and he got it broke off you know where. :evilb: :evilb:

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It's not a friend of mine, just a guy I met.
But I'd have to see the boat to make sure its the one i'm thinking of.
Also, its not a safety issue.
Since he aint on the boards...
The boat was advertised for some time as a pantera. It was brought up in the pantera forum a few times, and it is not a pantera. It has the wrong VIN numbers and other details pointed out by Jo and Pepe themselves.
It's just the guy thinks he has a pantera and its not. That's all.
He seems pretty pumped with what he's got. I really don't want to spoil it for him, and its not like I'll really see him ever.
He only paid 7-8k for it, so he probably doesnt have much recourse w/ the previous owner. And that guy may have thought it was a pantera, unless one of us from here told him otherwise.

One last question. How can you register the boat as "pantera" if the vin# on the hull isn't?

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Yeah if he puts your VIN # on the reggie :p :p :evilb:

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send him an anonymous letter with the proof.

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Nobody said friendship is easy.
Gotta tell them.
Just start with "Man, this boat is really awesome, but..."

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maybe it's a Pantara not a pantera :drink:

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Maybe it is a Pantera, and the serial # just doesn't add up. FYI maybe it is someone elses Pantera with a switched or made up VIN?????? Lets face it how many boats get stolen?? wouldn't take a genius to make a new Vin and dump it for quick sale and run?? :(

Just a thought

WILL

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See thread about boat.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=97013

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I would tell my friend so that he doesn't end up being the last one to know and look like an idiot.

He didn't pay jack. Looks like it floats.
He can probably still go boating.

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NOT MY FRIEND! JUST SOME DUDE.
don't wanna upset him, might want to use his props for testing. ;)

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You are just some dude, too.

But if I knew that your Pantera was really a Panera I would tell you.

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But Panera Bread Factory is good too! :D
And I hope you think of me as an OSO brother, just not some dude. :)

I think if this boat was purchase by an OSO member, people would have jumped to tell him the truth.
But I am surprised by the results of the poll, I thought most guys would have said, "let him enjoy what he's got."
I thought, from this post, that most of you would have said I would be telling him just for personal reasons, to make me feel better about my purchase.

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I think that most members like to operate in the OSO brother mode. I do. I try to help out my OSO brothers and they sure have helped me out.
I also think that most OSO members are brutally honest, and they put themselves in the postion of the other guy.

I thought "would I want to know.... even if I realized that I had just experienced part of my learning curve?"
Yeah. I would want to know.

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I would say tell him. Start with "Hey it's a great boat..." but if you don't tell him, he could have a real problem when it comes time for him to sell it. :cool:

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Sounds like you are hooking him up with a fat chick. :D

"hey... she has a great personality."

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Hey, does this guy want to buy a Rolex - cheap? :D :D :D

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Just some dude... then it's none of your business... you don't know the deal and if you wre not consulted before it's none of you business.

I can tell you what I would think if someone I know casually would come up to me about my boat and tell me I got screwed...

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I think he'll find out on his own.... not my place to bust him.

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Is this the boat that is actually an Abbate? If so why not tell him - Abbate is a good brand. I actually have an old Abbate brouchure from the 70's although this particular boat is not on it - only larger boats. Made in Italy.

just my .02

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It has an Abbate serial number.
Not sure where it was made. Looks enough like a pantera / superboat / P&D or any other 24ft cig splash.

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Heres another poser
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...549547020&rd=1

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Oh - I see - It's just an Abbate serial number and not made by Abbate??? I'll post that brouchure later - it's pretty funny with all the 70's Italian syling...

Also Pantera/Superboat/ P&D/Excalibur are not 24' Cigarette splashes - they have a beam of 7'; the 24' Cigarette/Banana has a beam of 7'11".

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I stand corrected.
But can you enlighten us on where this hull originated from?
It seems to be a mystery.

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Alot of the narrower boats were from a magnum according to Pepe N.

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Tell him. It's better to hear it from you and some one giving him a hard time at the dock about his boat that isn't a real pantera. No real ethical problem here.

An ethical dilemma would be whether or not to rat out the SOB that glassed back together a totaled Howard cat and selling it as MINT. Opps did I just say that out loud