Re: Nephew killed today
 

Sorry for your loss.

very sorry

Wow, very sorry to hear. Just blows my mind the response of some of the people on here. The cop was an idiot and anyone that thinks he was right is an idiot. He should have pulled out a pencil and paper and took down the plate numbers not a gun. Then charge the driver. You don't jump in front of a moving car.

That's a little out of line unless you were there. Tragic, yes and my heartfelt condolances go out to the affected families. The bottom line is that nothing would have happened if they just paid for thier meal. I can't imagine how the lives of the driver of the car and the officer have been since that night.:(:(:(

Mark,
Thanks for remembering this. That means more to me than you can imagine! It was and still is a difficult subject for our family. As a matter of fact, a newspaper was left at the door of our hotel room every morning while in Miami for the boat show. Bill found an article in the Miami Herald (I think) that cited a case where a group of girls left a Denny's without paying the bill...a tag number was written down and the police were able to track down the girls that way. Don't think I didn't tear out that article and that Alexandria police and the IHOP won't get a copy of it.

Yes, Aaron and his friends were wrong for not paying the bill and the driver VERY wrong for how he handled the situation but I certainly don't think Aaron had to die for a mistake that cost the IHOP $26. Like Audiofn said, I would gladly pay 1000 times that to have him back.

Don't want to start anything again because it is still very painful....once again.....MARK, thank you for remembering.

Patti

I'm very sorry for your loss.

45Sonic and family,

I agree, it is very sad that this happened and my heart goes out to your family. Any one of a number of things could have changed the tragic outcome.

Yeah griff I would. Just last week some little punks keyed the side of my boat on the way out of my driveway for not buying anything from their school fliers. I went and got their information not jump in front of their bikes and start shooting. Oh yeah, my paint job is worth a lot more than a couple pancakes!

Because of the loss of life, it seems to make it a little different.
I feel terrible for the family, and I remember when this happened.
I've been ripped off in my own neighborhood - CD's and such out of my truck - big deal, it's $100, make a report, and have the cops patrol the area a little more. Also stopped a kid that was stealing a gas can out of a neighbors garage. Confronted him, and held him until the cops got there. http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ghlight=caught
He needed to learn a lesson, not be killed.
A life is worth a lot more than a few $$.

Sorry to hear about your nephew. Condolences and Prayers for you and your family.

Very sorry for your loss.:(

Well I certainly wouldnt want them dead just for stealing my boat.

Nobody said or implied that at all. Like I said, its very sad that someone lost there life over this, especially since he was not the one in control of the vehicle.

Very sorry for your loss :(

#1 Sorry for the loss
#2 this was kids at an IHOP not a boat.
#3 Congrats Griff on winning the most insensitive post year award. Please do not hijack this thread with your antics.

That post was directed only at WaterJunkie and I apologize if it was taken any other way, especially by 45sonic and their family.
WaterJunkie improperly stated the facts in his post about the officer jumping in front of the vehicle when actually the vehicle swerved at the officer according to witness accounts. Then WJ made personal attacks calling people idiots for not agreeing completely with his point of view.
Most people will never understand about having to make a life or death decision and having less than one second to make that decision. Its easy to sit back, look at the situation afterward and say what should have been done. I'm sure there is not a person involved that doesn't wish they had done something differently.

45sonic and family. I was not on this board back then but I'm very sorry for your loss. That was a truley tragic story for all involved.

I consider myself blessed that in my 14 years in law enforcement, I've never had to fire my weapon outside of the range and spend a lifetime reliving why I fired it....or have my family spend their lifetime wondering why I didn't.

To the rest, I think what Griff was trying to get across is that unless you were there, you really can't offer an educated opinion. It's simply not possible for you to know what was going on in the mind of the driver and the officer at that particular second. I don't know any officer that has been involved in a shooting that doesn't wish it had ended differently, justified or not.

Most people don't get up in the morning, shower, dress and go to a job where there's a reasonable chance that you are going to have to make a split second decision about taking a life. It's just not something that your average person thinks about on a daily basis. But we do. My hope every day is that I, and everyone I come into contact with, ends the day home with the people they love. In our job, sometimes, that doesn't happen.

It sounds like it was determined that several bad decisions were made that night, by all involved, and changes were put in place to help prevent something like this from happening again.

That being said, I've read this thread from start to finish and read far more heartfelt condolences than useless rants. The one thing I noted is that the one person I would excuse for shouting out from the mountain top, 45sonic, has showed an incredible amount of class and tact by not stirring the fires and has further requested that we don't either.

A thousand different things could have occured to make a different result that night. But they didn't. I can neither support nor condemn the actions of anyone involved because I can't know what happend. Neither can you.

Again my heartfelt condolences to 45sonic and family as you remember your nephew. I'm sure the passing two years has done little to ease all your pain.

Sorry for your loss!

Ryann 8886............very weel said. I would think that everyone here on this forum would, or at least "should" feel the same.

Thank you, and again, sorry for your loss

Frank

Griif,

I really think you need to rewrite your post or at least reread it. You do come off saying that someones life is worth less than $30 or your boat. If that is how you feel you are a sick pup. :(

WILL

That is not what I said, implied or how I feel at all. I most certainly do not. Like I said, it was directed ONLY at WaterJunkie's post that misrepresented the facts and then called anybody who didn't fully agree him an idiot. I still should not have responded the way I did.

Rewriting it or deleting it is a moot point after its been quoted repeatedly, but I will delete it anyway.

I would ask that all the others that quoted it do the same, that way we can all move on.

It was not my intent to cause any hard feelings. The post was clearly interpreted in a different way than it was intended.