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Been there and done it, I have the T-shirt already. :cool:

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I don't know, McManus would have to field that question.
I would love to see some of those multi step hulls in rough water running against that 47 Apache.

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I guess it's been a long winter day... Anyway, BGII mentioned this as well.....what does Fountain have to do with a thread titled "Cig vs. Apache?

If the Apache's where made with the latest and greatest technology a lot of things would need to change. I bet the CG would be differnet, the length and width of the stringers would be different etc. Basically everything about the bottom would need to be changed.

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It just might look exactly like this..... :cool:

Ask Bob Saccenti about this design. It's his latest project and he just completed the R&D on it. :D

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It won't look anything like that....McManus does not do steps.

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:cool:

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breath taking :eek:

jr mike

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Looks beautiful, Jerry!!!

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Thanks Ed ! It's gettin there ....

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Man...that is AWESOME !! :D

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McManus Superboats

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http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/4/4/79951944.htm :D

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CrashBoxes :eek: :D

And since boat trader Apaches have been brought up.
Whats story behind this one?

http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/0/2/75895302.htm

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Any guess on the price of this monster and what power ??

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My .02

An Old School Cigarette or Apache' is a toss up.

When it comes to stepped hulls I do believe Reggie has it nailed down to a science. I would get a Fountain 47'er rather than a 42' Stepped Cig.

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Chitown -

Thats "Heart Racer", a 40ft Mcmanus Apache built for Mario Andretti and a friend of his.
Sweet boat....

ttt

Time for a video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niwjMgDl02k

or 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whQ3c...eature=related

Compared to a TS Tiger with the same power package of let's say 2x 1100's, which would better handle overal speed and rough water handling?? 41 apache or 42 Tiger. I'm gonna sit back and watch this one....:lolhit:

20 plus years old Lipship Apache 41 recently racing in the UK.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYXFYbDyrg0

ME TOO, I operate a tow truck nowadays and seldom we tow Hondas, not much Mercs either....so (ot)Audis=Fountain and Volvo=Formulas?

And a Scarab was winning there 1981 before that representing USA. Oldschool boats still rule at a true offshore race and CTC is still the no1.
No one has beat Buzzis 50, when will there be a A47 vs Buzzi...or any other big one from US?
A Marauder perhaps?

WARNING!

Heavily offtopic!since your post nothing has changed ;-)

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y-YrVfUHLos
Its still the benchmark..http://fbdesign.it/cesa1882.php

Hi MikeyFin. CTC is awesome racing in my book. As far as Buzzi, Mr Euro Offshore in my book too. I believe Jim who owns the 46 Freedom Skater raced Buzzi back in the day. Maybe he will chime in and talk about his experience. Damn 2:20 am and I have to be up in 3 hours. That's it for tonight.

Generally, the longer the better, like winkies. Excepting flat seas, the longer similar hull (they all came from the 35' Cigarette) will outrun any of the shorter models with an equal amount of testosterone. I ran the crew that developed the Top Gun. It is my 'civilian' favorite.

Brownie, and the race favourite? Damn, now I think of 38TG to get to the cabin, ...thought of some smaller...

And the story of the 38TG development, please?

Damn glad to see this thread brought back to life!

Me too