High Tide---

1.There's a feature called "spell check" ...They invented it for you. Either That or they're giving away too much booze and drugs in Florida.... Oh I get it "High" tide... That's a good one...sorry I almost missed it

2. As far as rough water the best 30 foot boat, Vee or Cat, I ever ran in 3-5 footers was the Shadow cat.... I've also personally observed a 40'Skater make lunch meat out of a 46' Apache in storm seas off Ocean City, Maryland ( Look it up.... Spirit of Norway-40 Skater Vs Tweet's Revenge- 46 Apache APBA in 92 or 93) No Vee can stay with a 50' Cougar cat..... In fact one of those babies holds the record from Miami to New York ( Look that up too).

Finally, your bio says that you own a 40 foot Baja.... I'll tell you what anytime, anywhere...Your "bath tub" against my Skater. It'll be a great race...until your deck comes off....Baja sponsors races...they don't enter them.

Screamin:

Define "transom lift".......

where is the spell check button?

Hey T2x.....buddy(?) ......been out of town all weekend till today....... glad to see you didnt "turtle" and are still hangin in there......looks like High Tide has displaced me......

Twin 29--- Nah... He's not in your league... Give me a Canadian over a Floridian in a fair fight anyday.... Something about the cold winters...and yes..."buddy" applies.... no hard feelings here...you have to have a heart and a brain for that.... (I have neither)

T2x
1) Transom lift to me is when the ass-end of the boat rides a little higher. Actually, i noticed that the bow doesn't carry or react to the trim the same way...don't get me wrong, i am not challenging you, just trying to learn.
2) I am a vee hull guy, BUT ANYONE who has ever been in a properly designed, or good running catamaran, knows that EQUAL LENGTH, to EQUAL POWER, the cat will OUTPERFORM ANY VEE HULL in ANY, and i repeat, ANY WATER CONDITIONS...of course, considering they both are operated properly.

Tweet's revenge is a 47 Apache.

T2x- I hate to keep harping with the motorcycle thing ....but... As an "outsider" looking at high performance boating from the perspective a high performance road rasher I am seeing an all too familiar scene developing that is giving me a big case of the Deja Vu's, I touched on it in that earlier rant......Some members will no doubt know all about this......In the late 70s and early 80s the sport bike market gets hit with large amounts technology (read power and handling)so much so fast that the industry cant adapt fast enough....sales in the sport bike market skyrocket....riders are buying 130 mph machines as their first bikes....speeding and motorcycle fatalities increase.....by the end of the 80s you could do 148 off the showroom floor.....Then it happened..... gov't and insurance companies get together and create a sport bike "hit list"(no ****!)targeting specific models.The gov't does their part and speeding fines in our area triple(along with a court date)and insurance for bikes on the hit list ends up being roughly half the purchase price of the bike.....It works.....sales plummet, the sport bike market goes in the toilet,almost completly kills it, It has made a resurgence in the last few years but it is still just a shadow of its former self....I think you all know where Im going with this one.....T2x,or anyone else, any comments on the speeds we are seeing on what are essentially marine versions of public highways. Tomcat,that 1000 island run....was it as hairy to you as it looked to me onshore? Are most of the runs that "tight" or are most of them more open. I heard a bunch of guys saying they were going to talk to Bill Taylor about it, any results? Not a fun topic but hopefully we will never have to start off our bench racing sessions with "remember that time back in the good old days......"

T2x - thanks for info, the effort and the keyboard finger cramp! First we have to get the knowledge ( you have helped with that ) then we must use it.

I never got a clear response to the origin of Weinsteins 33'Powerplay. Thanks in advance - Paul

High-tide does make a very valid point in his post. t2x (earlier) makes the statement that he does not utilize fourty year old big block chevrolet based technology, rather he prefers his three year old two stroke technology. I would question how t2x, as the self proclaimed historian of all things ripped off in offshore boating, would ignore the fact that the mercury two stroke outboard dates back to at least 1940 when Kiekhaefer displayed his outboard in New York. By my reconing, this would make the Mercury two-stroke outboard 60 year old technology.

Where high-tide hits the nail on the head, is that by the end of world war two, Kiekhaefer and the mercury based two stroke is the worlds largest chainsaw manufacturer.

Now I know that there have been tremendous technological advances in two stroke technology (just as there have been equally great advances in four-stroke technology) but the fact is, if you are going to pan all technology which can not be traced back to the inventors first cocktail napkin, there is nothing particularly innovative about anything in modern offshore boating.

Still looking for the spell check button. By the way Canadian and Floridian.