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Is that the old C.A.M. boat ?

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I have a radio controlled boat hull that matches that 40' Cigarette exaclty. I got it from England about 15 years ago. It is about 84" long

Wow, I had no idea what hull it was based off. Good paint idea's now.

thanks

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Charlie, That is actually a 39' Squadron XII, It has a "XEX" H.I.N. prefix. It was bought from a Goverment auction after being seized for running square grouper, was last located in NJ as of Sept 2004

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More pics

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Last ones

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Lee, interesting... from what i know the 39 squadron has a flat deck.
Let me see if i can find a pic.
found'em.

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Just to add to the confusion :evilb: :D

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Thanks Lee.......come on you Jersey guys, someone must recognize the background here......can someone do a drive by and see if it is still there?

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I like the pick of this one :D

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The boat in post 43,44,and 45 are in the Atlantic Highlands area of NJ-Northern Monmouth County for those who may try to find it. Can't help any futher than that....

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B.T. Thanks for helping me sort this one out. Here are a couple more pics.. The engine rm. pic isn't so great,but the dam hatch was heavy with one arm holding. :D It sure is some old race rigging with fuel tanks,twin turbo'd bbc's etc.
The salt air sure has done a job on her though.
Here is the Hull I.D. pic. also.
CRT - Cigarette Racing Team
400008 - 40' hull # 8 ? :confused:
1273 - Dec yr. 73
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http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15617230676.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15617215870.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15617202032.jpg&s=f5

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Donzi. If your decoding is correct(I don't know the I.D systems of Cigarette)it exclude that was the former "Bounty Hunter" and the "Sunoco DX-CAM2",because they just exist before.
It can be the former US-1-UFOII-Limit Up but it's went in England.
The last knew,"Slingshot" went in Australia.....

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One of those 40' builted for fast cruising only.

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5...i77a5va.th.jpg
Bacardi 1977

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Marco....this is a Perfomer, built by Bill Elswicks company.

I took that photo.

That boat was built as the Miami Boat Show boat for Performer and it had 3 engines.

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Eitherway, that is a great shot w/ some very cool boats. :cool:

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Performer! This phantomatic copy of Cigarette factory was of Bill Elswick at least!
I remember the "Night Moves" and the publicity of this Performer said was a 36'....with the appearances of a Cig. 40' but with a different "wheel house".
Now this fast cruise version but however the same appearance that the same of the Cigarettes.....
Can you help me to know something more of Performer?

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the days i wish i lived.... that looks like mid to late 70 right behind the 4 ambassador condo in Brickell in Miami

jr mike

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The boat right behind the 40 is a 38 Bertram "49er", the first Bertram made of "Kevlar 49. The brown Production boat in the background is "Boogie Bear", a 30 Corsa. :D

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Ok, Ok, it's not a 40'. But hey! A close relation. And too beautiful for words.............

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Anybody know if Al Copeland ever raced a 40' cigarette built in 1980 with kevlar hull named Popeye's with a quite different "round" deck? If so is there any pics out there?
Regards Joern

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That boat started out as the Cigarette factory race boat for Billy Martin, called Bounty Hunter and it was a 39 foot boat....it was sold to Michel Maynard and run as Fayva Shoes and then Copeland bought it.

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do a search on here on the word "bubble" you will find that that boat has been for sale for a LONG time and keeps popping up.

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actually, its a little harder to find thatn i thought...but here is a link to one of the threads...

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...ghlight=bubble

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Thanks guys, so it is not the prettiest Cig buildt but whats the "catch" since it has been for sale so long ? Did it ever race and how is the 39 hull compared to the old 36 wide body and the 35 racing vercion?
reg joern

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Not pretty? I think it´s beautiful. I understood it to be a good rough water boat. Is this the case?? Did it weigh as much as much as a house?!

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Well Littlenige, I did not mean ugly but quite different from what at least I am used to se of Cig from the seventies. Actually the boat as "Bounty Hunter" is quite spectacular with great color-scheme. A little "european" style with the foredeck. I assume the boat on the enclosed top pic is the 39' and the lower pic is a 35' race boat ? Wonder why we get confused..
Reg Joern

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Correct me if im wrong, but wasnt slingshot a 44'.

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Another copy of the old 40 was the "Offshore" built by Joe Debellous and Pete Van Kirk. The boat was 42, but had a 10' beam... Then the molds became the Marathon... then they were then leased to Don Smith of Ocean Smith Powerboats for his 42' center console with the pocket drives...

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the boat they used by the way was the old "Diamond Don" which caught fire and sat in front of Offshore Marine(the more famouse locations of Doller Offshore) in Ft. Lauderdale for a time n the 80's...

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I think Peter Dean owned several different Slingshots, so we´re probably all correct! Perhaps someone out there can confirm.

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Top Banana, is it safe to assume that :

"Bounty Hunter 1" was a 40 ft Cigarette
"Bounty Hunter 2" was a 35 ft Cigarette
"Bounty Hunter 3" was a 39 ft Cigarette, kevlar with round deck

also does anybody have a adress or tlph number to Billy Martin ?

Reg Joern

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Nigel and MidOcean
Dean's Slingshot was two boats: the first was a Cig.40' that raced in 1977 in Key West World championships like in the pic above,then he bought a new 39' sister boat of Nordskog's Powerboat Magazine pitured in the post by Littlenige.
This one was lenghtened in 1979 by Dean to 44' and became a Dean Special 44',still named Slingshot and raced the World Championships in Melbourne in 1980 where Meynard won with the wodden Cougar 38' Fayva Shoes,because was the only driver (together Toleman)to come in Australia with a cat where alls thought that the waters of the Melbourne Bay would be rough.

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Diamond Don was the former Really Ridicolous,former CAM2/Sunoco DX,the first 40' ever builded I think....

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In 1979-80 Meynard had a 39' "rounded deck" bought from Martin. Then there was the white Popeye's of Copeland,39' "rounded deck",Cigarette/Halter numbered 15/5 for Wayne Vickers in dark blue colours,then in 1983 in Key West Finals there was the same dark blue renamed Fayva Shoes......are alls the same boat?
Then Copeland re-sold it to Meynard?

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Trotta's Rampage and Cigarette hawk (same boat I think)

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Billy`s son is a member here on oso. Bill sr and Bill jr race with the OPA.

Mike

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Exactly Marco, thats my question , a Cigarette/Halter is listed for the 1978 season, then "Bounty Hunter 3" is listed for the 1979 season,then "Fayva Shoes" in the 1980 season, then "Halter Racing" 1981 season and finally "Popeyes" for the 1982 all 39ft Cigarette. somebody on this forum ought to know if it is the same boat ?
Reg Joern

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But Cigarette Hawk not was the next Silver Bullet of Craig-Barrie?

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About 6 months ago I tracked down the current owner of the atlantic highlands cigarette. I talked to him about the history of the boat and I determined fairly quickly that he was out of his mind. When he told me he was asking 20 grand for the boat as it sat it confirmed he was out of his mind. I nicely told him that he would be lucky if someone would take it and he could never get 20G for a boat in that condition. I later got a call from his daughter who said she tried to tak to her father and explain the real value of the boat and he did not care. Oh well....I guess it will rot right where it sits.

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About out of mind peoples
The same thing it happened to me some mounths ago when I asked to the owners of the old Cigarette 36' Lady Nara(the famous winner of the CTC in 1971). Those guys shot 120.000 euros(over 150.000$) complete with a couple of igniominous diesel engines.....
Only few years ago the same guys wanted 38.000$ for the same unselled boat.
The power of the rising vintage.....