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Early 40' Cig's Raceboat ?
Any idea how many 40' Cigs.were built ? They were strictly a race version correct ? Someone had told me 6 only built with 8 wins. True or false ?
Thanks for all replies. Ken |
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Here are the ones I remember:-
Bob Magoon's 40' - white with blue/red trim lines - later became UFO II - then Limit Up. Bob Nordskog's Powerboat Magazine Special. Peter Dean's Slingshot. Roger Penske's Cam 2 Motor Oil. Of course some of the above may be the same boat under differnet ownership/colours - not sure. Shall try to attach some pics. |
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OK maybe the Powerboat Magazine boat was a 39 footer!
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Originally Posted by DONZI
Any idea how many 40' Cigs.were built ? They were strictly a race version correct ? Someone had told me 6 only built with 8 wins. True or false ?
Thanks for all replies. Ken The firsts was "Sunoco DX" of Roger Penske and "Bounty Hunter" of Billy Martin in 1973 . "Sunoco DX" in 1974 was renamed "Cam 2 Motor Oil" and it won only one race in 1976 with Penske e Bob Magoon at the last race in offshore. http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3...nske6qh.th.jpg "Sunoco DX" 1973 season http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3...ke407jf.th.jpg1 http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1...m2767zu.th.jpg "Cam 2 Motor Oil" 1974-76 Winning the Hennessy Grand Prix http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1...t76d2fc.th.jpg "Really Ridicolous" Key West november 1976. I think it was the former "Cam 2 Motor Oil". http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/8...i77c7ig.th.jpg "Really Ridiculous" Bacardi Trophy 1977 http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1223/race99ve.th.jpg And then "Diamond Don". I think we are in 1978. |
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"Bounty Hunter" of Billy Martin in 1974.
Seven was the victories with it. Four in 1974 and Three in 1975. http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2...rtin9xi.th.jpg http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6...t76i4eg.th.jpg "Bewitched" Key West november 1976. Maybe this one was the former "Bounty Hunter". Then was the "US-1" of Bob Magoon in 1974 to set a new record in the Miami-New York http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9...01645mc.th.jpg This boat was sold to the englishman Norman Barclay that re-named it "UFO 2" http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6...19755mq.th.jpg Then was the countryman Michael Doxford that bought it to start the offshore big boat racing. Doxford re-named it "Limit Up" and he won two races in 1977. http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7...it761sc.th.jpg 1976 http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8...77797jm.th.jpg 1977-79 In the same year(1974) the fourth 40' was built for the australian Peter Dean named "Slingshot". Dean won four race in 1974,five in 1975 and three in 1976. Is'nt true that Dean modified the boat lenghtened to 44',as such as Crouse wrote in Searace. The 44' was a 39' design lenghtened to 44' and was a Dean 44' Special,"Slingshot". http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3...ot778tk.th.jpg Totally the Cigarette 40' won 21 races over the world. The best years of this boat was the 1974 and 1975 with eight victories in each one. Then there was the 39'. But it is another story. |
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Haha!! Marco -we race to the answer!! beat you! (Although your statistics and details are far better than mine!!)
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Aha! I put a lot of time to find the pics and set a chronoligic order. :p |
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Europe beat USA 2-0..... :cool:
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Billy Martin still has Bounty Hunter . His also a member here on OSO.
We like to have him come to the Point Pleasant race this year. Mike |
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Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Europe beat USA 2-0..... :cool:
Does it count if you put a 36 Cigarette named Tamarind Seed in.......... and call it Bewitched like in post #5? |
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There was a Roger Hanks from Texas had a red one.........m.m.....Is that right? Dont hold me to it I was banged on the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....mark......
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?
Is that your new toy ??????????????? Mike |
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
:cool:
Aha! I put a lot of time to find the pics and set a chronoligic order. :p Thanks guys. It seems 6 built is a possibilty ? |
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?
http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/9...ette3ld.th.jpg Was one of these.But I think was the former Bounty Hunter. http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4...y78f0pt.th.jpg http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6843/longshot0nj.jpg http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1...spec3ad.th.jpg |
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Does it count if you put a 36 Cigarette named Tamarind Seed in.......... and call it Bewitched like in post #5?
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Originally Posted by el indio
There was a Roger Hanks from Texas had a red one.........m.m.....Is that right? Dont hold me to it I was banged on the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....mark......
Famous to have marked an Hatteras. |
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Originally Posted by DONZI
Great post's !
Thanks guys. It seems 6 built is a possibilty ? Or their destination was'nt to competitions. |
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?
Charlie Where is that pic from ??? Mike |
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wasn't Bob's Nordskog's Powerboat Special a 38' Scarab and wasn't his Can-Am Special a 39' Cig.? Also isn't the abandoned blue boat a 36'? -Jeff
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Originally Posted by Hauling Trash
Charlie
Where is that pic from ??? Mike Oh sure, now you want an answer, after not coming up with any answer forme about how much of a treasure trove you still have of old offshore stuff. That picture was taken from an ad that said: "Old Race Boat for sale...lost storage, first $1,000 takes it" |
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Originally Posted by jhiguy377
wasn't Bob's Nordskog's Powerboat Special a 38' Scarab and wasn't his Can-Am Special a 39' Cig.? Also isn't the abandoned blue boat a 36'? -Jeff
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Charlie
I one of these , Does that work ??? Mike |
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:cool:Bounty Hunter in part of the pic
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
"Blonde IV". It was a Cigarette 36'.
Famous to have marked an Hatteras. |
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El Indio
This in foreground isn't a Cigarette 36' like was "Blonde IV". This was a 37',5 of Jose' Rodriguez in 1981 I think. Really a 37',5 was it ?! In background a Cig. 39' "Long Shot". |
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Originally Posted by jhiguy377
wasn't Bob's Nordskog's Powerboat Special a 38' Scarab and wasn't his Can-Am Special a 39' Cig.? Also isn't the abandoned blue boat a 36'? -Jeff
Nordskog's big boats fleet included a Cigarette 35' in 1973-76(American Viking II-Powerboat Magazine Special) and a Scarab 38' in 1977-87,(Powerboat -Los Angeles Skyhawks-Powerboat Magazine Special). |
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Right on 2, but the abandoned boat is a 39.....I just threw it into the thread on 40 footers, because Marco tried to sneak that 36 footer Tamarand Seed in too.
Really I did not want to sneak in the thread! It's a only stupid mistakes. I took a picture instead of other.... :drink: |
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I was right!! Nordskog 39' cig!
JCPERF - got any more shots like that? They're great. |
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Back to the 40' now!
Bill Elswick in Bushmills Grand Prix of 1978. It's a 40'? hull with a new deck and builted in January 1978. After 4 years that the lasts 40' was built. http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1...es781cq.th.jpg Seem a 36' long..... http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3...rad13mr.th.jpg In this publicity they said 36' Performer,but I think is not a 36'. |
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Sorry but isn't correct "Can-Am". The Nordskog's 39' was "Powerboat Magazine Special" then "C.A.M.Special" in 1980 for some races,then back to the old name.
Nordskog's big boats fleet included a Cigarette 35' in 1973-76(American Viking II-Powerboat Magazine Special) and a Scarab 38' in 1977-87,(Powerboat -Los Angeles Skyhawks-Powerboat Magazine Special). The CAM stood for Canada - America - Mexico. Bob Nordskog did all kinds of individual endurace runs and this was one of them. He usually did these runs for some charity, like seeing eye dogs for the blind. |
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?
Charlie Is this boat still around ???? Mike |
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Top Banana Thanks for the explanation.
Nordskog is not the offshore top winner only ,but a man of noble feelings too. |
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
To my datas result that raced at least 4 Cigarette 40'(not included all the successives rename).
The firsts was "Sunoco DX" of Roger Penske and "Bounty Hunter" of Billy Martin in 1973 . "Sunoco DX" in 1974 was renamed "Cam 2 Motor Oil" and it won only one race in 1976 with Penske e Bob Magoon at the last race in offshore. And then "Diamond Don". I think we are in 1978. http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517433682.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517461060.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517525968.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15518144235.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/1551813159.jpg&s=f5 |
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Originally Posted by Hauling Trash
Charlie
Is this boat still around ???? Mike |
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that boat does not deserve to live in a trailer park :mad: :mad:
jr mike
Originally Posted by DONZI
Soo, with this one. How many does it come to ?.This one was orginally yellow. It's a 1973 40'5" with a lil different cockpit. Stand up 3 man bolster w/ approx 2'open space behind. I don"t see a space behind the seat on the other 40's.
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517433682.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517461060.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517525968.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15518144235.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/1551813159.jpg&s=f5 |
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Originally Posted by thedonz
that boat does not deserve to live in a trailer park :mad: :mad:
jr mike It needs to be saved........just like any old race boat that has been ruined. |
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Originally Posted by DONZI
Soo, with this one. How many does it come to ?.This one was orginally yellow. It's a 1973 40'5" with a lil different cockpit. Stand up 3 man bolster w/ approx 2'open space behind. I don"t see a space behind the seat on the other 40's.
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517433682.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517461060.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517525968.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15518144235.jpg&s=f5 http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/1551813159.jpg&s=f5 Too much different in the deck. It is a 40'(40',5") for cruising builted maybe in the same year of the firsts 40' race boat. |
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Look this differences.
http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/647/parte12ca.jpg This air-vent was'nt in the 40' race version. Note that it was part of the deck mould. Then the deck was changed all? http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8793/parte45xt.jpg http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2745/parte38jc.jpg The dash was cutted and advanced for create a space between the engines room and the bolsters? http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7...rte23mw.th.jpg http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6206/parte57ci.jpg The fuel mouth was in the upper part of the "bridge-house" originally. Now is in the lower part. Why? |
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Here's the 39 mentioned earlier...
From the flpowerboat.com site(2000): No Garden Variety powerboat. If this rare 39' Cigarette could speak...what stories it might tell. Barney Welch's "Powerboat Magazine Special" was once owned and raced by the legendary Bob Nordskog. The '77 hull was completely redone by Barney recently, and is powered by Gentry Turbo's that can be literally "cranked -up" to 900 HP. Barney and newlywed Vicki are just cruisin' today! http://www.flpowerboat.com/gallery/f..._jun00-68b.jpg |
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