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DONZI 06-03-2006 09:52 AM

Early 40' Cig's Raceboat ?
 
Any idea how many 40' Cigs.were built ? They were strictly a race version correct ? Someone had told me 6 only built with 8 wins. True or false ?
Thanks for all replies. Ken

littlenige 06-03-2006 11:36 AM

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Here are the ones I remember:-

Bob Magoon's 40' - white with blue/red trim lines - later became UFO II - then Limit Up.

Bob Nordskog's Powerboat Magazine Special.

Peter Dean's Slingshot.

Roger Penske's Cam 2 Motor Oil.

Of course some of the above may be the same boat under differnet ownership/colours - not sure.

Shall try to attach some pics.

littlenige 06-03-2006 11:44 AM

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OK maybe the Powerboat Magazine boat was a 39 footer!

Black Tornado 06-03-2006 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DONZI
Any idea how many 40' Cigs.were built ? They were strictly a race version correct ? Someone had told me 6 only built with 8 wins. True or false ?
Thanks for all replies. Ken

To my datas result that raced at least 4 Cigarette 40'(not included all the successives rename).
The firsts was "Sunoco DX" of Roger Penske and "Bounty Hunter" of Billy Martin in 1973 .
"Sunoco DX" in 1974 was renamed "Cam 2 Motor Oil" and it won only one race in 1976 with Penske e Bob Magoon at the last race in offshore.
http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3...nske6qh.th.jpg
"Sunoco DX" 1973 season

http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/3...ke407jf.th.jpg1

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/1...m2767zu.th.jpg
"Cam 2 Motor Oil" 1974-76 Winning the Hennessy Grand Prix
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1...t76d2fc.th.jpg
"Really Ridicolous" Key West november 1976. I think it was the former "Cam 2 Motor Oil".

http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/8...i77c7ig.th.jpg
"Really Ridiculous" Bacardi Trophy 1977

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1223/race99ve.th.jpg
And then "Diamond Don". I think we are in 1978.

Black Tornado 06-03-2006 11:47 AM

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"Bounty Hunter" of Billy Martin in 1974.
Seven was the victories with it. Four in 1974 and Three in 1975.
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/2...rtin9xi.th.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/6...t76i4eg.th.jpg
"Bewitched" Key West november 1976. Maybe this one was the former "Bounty Hunter".

Then was the "US-1" of Bob Magoon in 1974 to set a new record in the Miami-New York
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/9...01645mc.th.jpg
This boat was sold to the englishman Norman Barclay that re-named it "UFO 2"
http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/6...19755mq.th.jpg
Then was the countryman Michael Doxford that bought it to start the offshore big boat racing. Doxford re-named it "Limit Up" and he won two races in 1977.
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7...it761sc.th.jpg
1976

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8...77797jm.th.jpg
1977-79

In the same year(1974) the fourth 40' was built for the australian Peter Dean named "Slingshot". Dean won four race in 1974,five in 1975 and three in 1976.
Is'nt true that Dean modified the boat lenghtened to 44',as such as Crouse wrote in Searace.
The 44' was a 39' design lenghtened to 44' and was a Dean 44' Special,"Slingshot".

http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/3...ot778tk.th.jpg


Totally the Cigarette 40' won 21 races over the world.
The best years of this boat was the 1974 and 1975 with eight victories in each one.
Then there was the 39'. But it is another story.

littlenige 06-03-2006 11:50 AM

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Haha!! Marco -we race to the answer!! beat you! (Although your statistics and details are far better than mine!!)

Black Tornado 06-03-2006 11:59 AM

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:cool:
Aha! I put a lot of time to find the pics and set a chronoligic order. :p

Black Tornado 06-03-2006 12:04 PM

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Europe beat USA 2-0..... :cool:

Hauling Trash 06-03-2006 02:14 PM

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Billy Martin still has Bounty Hunter . His also a member here on OSO.

We like to have him come to the Point Pleasant race this year.


Mike

Top Banana 06-03-2006 02:18 PM

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Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?

Top Banana 06-03-2006 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Europe beat USA 2-0..... :cool:


Does it count if you put a 36 Cigarette named Tamarind Seed in.......... and call it Bewitched like in post #5?

el indio 06-03-2006 02:25 PM

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There was a Roger Hanks from Texas had a red one.........m.m.....Is that right? Dont hold me to it I was banged on the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....mark......

Hauling Trash 06-03-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?


Is that your new toy ???????????????




Mike

DONZI 06-03-2006 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
:cool:
Aha! I put a lot of time to find the pics and set a chronoligic order. :p

Great post's !
Thanks guys.
It seems 6 built is a possibilty ?

Black Tornado 06-03-2006 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?


http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/9...ette3ld.th.jpg

Was one of these.But I think was the former Bounty Hunter.
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4...y78f0pt.th.jpg

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/6843/longshot0nj.jpg

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/1...spec3ad.th.jpg

Black Tornado 06-03-2006 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Does it count if you put a 36 Cigarette named Tamarind Seed in.......... and call it Bewitched like in post #5?

Oops! Sorry! I have just rectified it.

Black Tornado 06-03-2006 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by el indio
There was a Roger Hanks from Texas had a red one.........m.m.....Is that right? Dont hold me to it I was banged on the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....mark......

"Blonde IV". It was a Cigarette 36'.
Famous to have marked an Hatteras.

Black Tornado 06-03-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DONZI
Great post's !
Thanks guys.
It seems 6 built is a possibilty ?

It's possible. But I think no.
Or their destination was'nt to competitions.

Hauling Trash 06-03-2006 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?


Charlie


Where is that pic from ???


Mike

jhiguy377 06-03-2006 05:12 PM

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wasn't Bob's Nordskog's Powerboat Special a 38' Scarab and wasn't his Can-Am Special a 39' Cig.? Also isn't the abandoned blue boat a 36'? -Jeff

Top Banana 06-03-2006 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hauling Trash
Charlie


Where is that pic from ???


Mike


Oh sure, now you want an answer, after not coming up with any answer forme about how much of a treasure trove you still have of old offshore stuff.

That picture was taken from an ad that said:
"Old Race Boat for sale...lost storage, first $1,000 takes it"

Top Banana 06-03-2006 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jhiguy377
wasn't Bob's Nordskog's Powerboat Special a 38' Scarab and wasn't his Can-Am Special a 39' Cig.? Also isn't the abandoned blue boat a 36'? -Jeff

Right on 2, but the abandoned boat is a 39.....I just threw it into the thread on 40 footers, because Marco tried to sneak that 36 footer Tamarand Seed in too.

Hauling Trash 06-03-2006 06:30 PM

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Charlie

I one of these , Does that work ???


Mike

JCPERF 06-03-2006 06:41 PM

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:cool:Bounty Hunter in part of the pic

el indio 06-03-2006 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
"Blonde IV". It was a Cigarette 36'.
Famous to have marked an Hatteras.

they lost their steering and said it was like driving the empire state building..........when they hit the check boat!!!!!!!!!!!!!!...........m.m.........

Black Tornado 06-04-2006 02:47 AM

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El Indio
This in foreground isn't a Cigarette 36' like was "Blonde IV".
This was a 37',5 of Jose' Rodriguez in 1981 I think.
Really a 37',5 was it ?!
In background a Cig. 39' "Long Shot".

Black Tornado 06-04-2006 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jhiguy377
wasn't Bob's Nordskog's Powerboat Special a 38' Scarab and wasn't his Can-Am Special a 39' Cig.? Also isn't the abandoned blue boat a 36'? -Jeff

Sorry but isn't correct "Can-Am". The Nordskog's 39' was "Powerboat Magazine Special" then "C.A.M.Special" in 1980 for some races,then back to the old name.
Nordskog's big boats fleet included a Cigarette 35' in 1973-76(American Viking II-Powerboat Magazine Special) and a Scarab 38' in 1977-87,(Powerboat -Los Angeles Skyhawks-Powerboat Magazine Special).

Black Tornado 06-04-2006 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Right on 2, but the abandoned boat is a 39.....I just threw it into the thread on 40 footers, because Marco tried to sneak that 36 footer Tamarand Seed in too.

:evilb: Sorry Top!
Really I did not want to sneak in the thread! It's a only stupid mistakes. I took a picture instead of other.... :drink:

littlenige 06-04-2006 04:02 AM

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I was right!! Nordskog 39' cig!

JCPERF - got any more shots like that? They're great.

Black Tornado 06-04-2006 04:53 AM

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Back to the 40' now!

Bill Elswick in Bushmills Grand Prix of 1978.
It's a 40'? hull with a new deck and builted in January 1978. After 4 years that the lasts 40' was built.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1...es781cq.th.jpg
Seem a 36' long.....

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/3...rad13mr.th.jpg
In this publicity they said 36' Performer,but I think is not a 36'.

Top Banana 06-04-2006 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
Sorry but isn't correct "Can-Am". The Nordskog's 39' was "Powerboat Magazine Special" then "C.A.M.Special" in 1980 for some races,then back to the old name.
Nordskog's big boats fleet included a Cigarette 35' in 1973-76(American Viking II-Powerboat Magazine Special) and a Scarab 38' in 1977-87,(Powerboat -Los Angeles Skyhawks-Powerboat Magazine Special).


The CAM stood for Canada - America - Mexico.

Bob Nordskog did all kinds of individual endurace runs and this was one of them. He usually did these runs for some charity, like seeing eye dogs for the blind.

Hauling Trash 06-04-2006 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Very Good Boys.....now what about this one, you didn't forget this one did you?


Charlie


Is this boat still around ????



Mike

Black Tornado 06-04-2006 10:43 AM

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Top Banana Thanks for the explanation.
Nordskog is not the offshore top winner only ,but a man of noble feelings too.

DONZI 06-05-2006 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
To my datas result that raced at least 4 Cigarette 40'(not included all the successives rename).
The firsts was "Sunoco DX" of Roger Penske and "Bounty Hunter" of Billy Martin in 1973 .
"Sunoco DX" in 1974 was renamed "Cam 2 Motor Oil" and it won only one race in 1976 with Penske e Bob Magoon at the last race in offshore.
And then "Diamond Don". I think we are in 1978.

Soo, with this one. How many does it come to ?.This one was orginally yellow. It's a 1973 40'5" with a lil different cockpit. Stand up 3 man bolster w/ approx 2'open space behind. I don"t see a space behind the seat on the other 40's.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517433682.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517461060.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517525968.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15518144235.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/1551813159.jpg&s=f5

Top Banana 06-05-2006 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hauling Trash
Charlie


Is this boat still around ????



Mike

Mike I don't think so....and as for your jacket, I was looking for older stuff, back in the 60's and 70's. How about a nice Maritime jacket?...Now that would be a find.

thedonz 06-05-2006 07:16 PM

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that boat does not deserve to live in a trailer park :mad: :mad:

jr mike




Originally Posted by DONZI
Soo, with this one. How many does it come to ?.This one was orginally yellow. It's a 1973 40'5" with a lil different cockpit. Stand up 3 man bolster w/ approx 2'open space behind. I don"t see a space behind the seat on the other 40's.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517433682.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517461060.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517525968.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15518144235.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/1551813159.jpg&s=f5


24degrees 06-05-2006 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by thedonz
that boat does not deserve to live in a trailer park :mad: :mad:

jr mike


It needs to be saved........just like any old race boat that has been ruined.

Black Tornado 06-06-2006 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DONZI
Soo, with this one. How many does it come to ?.This one was orginally yellow. It's a 1973 40'5" with a lil different cockpit. Stand up 3 man bolster w/ approx 2'open space behind. I don"t see a space behind the seat on the other 40's.

http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517433682.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517461060.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15517525968.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/15518144235.jpg&s=f5
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=6/1551813159.jpg&s=f5

Donzi I think it isn't a former 40' race boat.
Too much different in the deck.
It is a 40'(40',5") for cruising builted maybe in the same year of the firsts 40' race boat.

Black Tornado 06-06-2006 04:10 AM

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Look this differences.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/647/parte12ca.jpg
This air-vent was'nt in the 40' race version. Note that it was part of the deck mould. Then the deck was changed all?

http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/8793/parte45xt.jpg

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/2745/parte38jc.jpg
The dash was cutted and advanced for create a space between the engines room and the bolsters?

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7...rte23mw.th.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6206/parte57ci.jpg
The fuel mouth was in the upper part of the "bridge-house" originally. Now is in the lower part. Why?

Sean 06-06-2006 06:59 AM

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Here's the 39 mentioned earlier...

From the flpowerboat.com site(2000):

No Garden Variety powerboat. If this rare 39' Cigarette could speak...what stories it might tell. Barney Welch's "Powerboat Magazine Special" was once owned and raced by the legendary Bob Nordskog. The '77 hull was completely redone by Barney recently, and is powered by Gentry Turbo's that can be literally "cranked -up" to 900 HP. Barney and newlywed Vicki are just cruisin' today!

http://www.flpowerboat.com/gallery/f..._jun00-68b.jpg


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