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Re: Early 40' Cig's Raceboat ?
About the Slingshot Cigarette 39' lenghtened to 44' of Peter Dean here a (bad) picture of it trasformed.
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Originally Posted by 36widebody
Top Banana, is it safe to assume that :
"Bounty Hunter 1" was a 40 ft Cigarette "Bounty Hunter 2" was a 35 ft Cigarette "Bounty Hunter 3" was a 39 ft Cigarette, kevlar with round deck also does anybody have a adress or tlph number to Billy Martin ? Reg Joern No.... there was another Bounty Hunter in there at 39 feet..... the one with the flat deck and Black sides with a brownish color as trim.....it was the same style as Long Shot. The bubble deck boat was the last 39 in 1979. |
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Originally Posted by Qball
About 6 months ago I tracked down the current owner of the atlantic highlands cigarette. I talked to him about the history of the boat and I determined fairly quickly that he was out of his mind. When he told me he was asking 20 grand for the boat as it sat it confirmed he was out of his mind. I nicely told him that he would be lucky if someone would take it and he could never get 20G for a boat in that condition. I later got a call from his daughter who said she tried to tak to her father and explain the real value of the boat and he did not care. Oh well....I guess it will rot right where it sits.
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Originally Posted by Top Banana
No.... there was another Bounty Hunter in there at 39 feet..... the one with the flat deck and Black sides with a brownish color as trim.....it was the same style as Long Shot. The bubble deck boat was the last 39 in 1979.
What do you mean with :the last 39 in 79, built or raced? I have been in contact with Billy Martin Jr. and in a few days I will hopefully speak to Martin Sr. and probably solve the mystery, and maybe he can elaborate on how many 39' with curved deck actually was made and was raced. Reg joern |
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Originally Posted by 36widebody
Top Banana: Do you mean this one which in the official lists are reffered to as #15 Cigarette Halter for the 78 season who won Benihana GP 78?
What do you mean with :the last 39 in 79, built or raced? I have been in contact with Billy Martin Jr. and in a few days I will hopefully speak to Martin Sr. and probably solve the mystery, and maybe he can elaborate on how many 39' with curved deck actually was made and was raced. Reg joern Yes - that's the one he means. By the way - he's the one who actually took that photo you posted... |
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Heres one of them racing this year
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Waiting Billy Martin remember to 36widebody the knots of the Bounty Hunters....a little clearness about the 39's saga.
In Bushmills Grand Prix march 5 1977 appear the first 39' Kevlar 49 ever builted: Bob Nordskog's N.8 Powerboat Magazine Special http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7650/cig39jl7.jpg Exactly one year after,in Bushmills G.P. march 18 1978 made the debut the second 39' no named of Billy Martin. http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/2020/nonameez3.jpg to be continued.... |
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...then Martin continued the Bounty Hunter saga in the remaining races of the APBA season....
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/207...ophy78fxn4.jpg ...to then raced at Mar Del Plata in december with a complete name in Bounty Hunter-Cigarette/Halter Racing. http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/957...resizedyq4.png Note the classic Martin's number 51 inverted to 15,because at that time Martin had the Cigarette 35' again with the classic number 51. Coming soon... |
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Other year,other Bushmills Grand Prix,other 39'. march 17 1979
The Bill Elswick's white n.144 Long Shot. http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1...mills79mv5.jpg that it became black with a different windscreen and engines hatches. http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7...resizedjb7.png and more.... |
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In the Bacardi Trophy of may 12 1979 debut the new 39' for Billy Martin with a different deck,really original rounded.
Sold the 35' to Paul Clauser,Martin return to him 51. http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/800...yhuntered0.jpg The new,orange,Bounty Hunter,will be a fiasco. Martin was disappointed of it because to much weight. At the end of the season Martin sold the new 39' to Michael Meynard that run the last race in Europe: the Cowes-Torquay-Cowes and Porto Cervo in Italy. http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/466/aww7.jpg |
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In 1980's R.P. Warmington Grand Prix,former Bushmills G.P.,that opened the season,Martin have the 39' round deck but then he decided to didn't to take the start.
Then at the New Orleans/Halter "200" Martin come back to the old 39' with McManus. Here at the start of the race with the Long Shot. http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1...ter2002xv5.jpg Next part will be continue tomorrow..... |
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In 1981's season the 39' round deck was repainted in dark blue(black?) with white stripes and entrusted to some drivers like the veterans Willie Meyers with Wayne Vickers or others like Mike Drury with Billy Martin and Michael Meynard that used it like a spare boat for rough seas(never happened).
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8...vickersoy8.jpg Halter "200" march 28 1981: n.5 Meyers-Vickers http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/551...er002smbj7.jpg Probably Bacardi Trophy, May 9 1981: n.15 Drury-Martin http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8281/fayvaup2.png Key West november 1981 World Championships: The n.13 "version" spare boat for Meynard but at disposal to Mike Drury. Note the little modifications for the 1981 season: new engines hatches with airscope and other scope on the sides. Maybe the engines was breathless before? |
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In the same year Bill Elswick,that dominated the 1980's season,appear with a 39' with the US-1 and a new deck(or new boat?)
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4...ee002smbw1.jpg And appeared Eddie Trotta with a new 39' sister boat of the Long Shot new version of Elswick. It was the n.10 white Rampage http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/9...ta002smxb0.jpg continued.... |
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After the accident in New Orleans where was killed Joel Halpern,Al Copeland come back in a race with the 39' round deck,probably former Bounty Hunter.
The white n. 18 Popeye's http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4...opeyes2hd4.jpg Coral Gables Challenge Cup August 14 1982 After that in Auckland's World Championships in december 1986 that "bubble boat" reappeared with the old Orange original version. It's very strange.... However it had the rising sun flag now,named Bengal for the Aoki new alter-ego,Misukazu Kobayashi. http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/7...87resizsh2.png |
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
After the accident in New Orleans where was killed Joel Halpern,Al Copeland come back in a race with the 39' round deck,probably former Bounty Hunter.
The white n. 18 Popeye's After that in Auckland's World Championships in december 1986 that "bubble boat" reappeared with the old Orange original version. It's very strange.... However it had the rising sun flag now,named Bengal for the Aoki new alter-ego,Misukazu Kobayashi. On a side note: Was it only the 36' who was 9' wide, or was any of the 40' or 39' also "wide body" ? Reg Joern |
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Originally Posted by 36widebody
Well Marco, I am impressed of your knowledge, and is anxious to see if Billy Sr. can confirm your history, or if it actually was two different hulls.
On a side note: Was it only the 36' who was 9' wide, or was any of the 40' or 39' also "wide body" ? Reg Joern However it's very curious that it at last was repainted in the original version several years and colours after....... But it's my opinion that the 39' "round deck" was the version most beautiful of alls 39',that it's a general opinion they haven't a well design hull. The 39's hull design was derivated directly from the 35' Awesome boats,like the 40' other not was that a 36' lenghtened of 4 feet simply,with a re-dimensioned stern and a different deck. Marco |
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I think that were builded almost 5, 39' originals.
3 identical(safe the windscreens): - Powerboats Magazine Special(also CAM-but not the CAM2 40' of Penske) -Bounty Hunter(also no name-Cigarette/Halter/Bounty Hunter) -Long Shot(in white then black) then there was: -Bounty Hunter("bubble" -Cigarette/Halter/Fayva Shoes-Popeye's-Bengal) then there was: -Rampage There is a doubt about the Long Shot in "Rampage version" of 1981. It was that of 1978 with the new deck or a new boats? The 39' won 10 races from 1977 to 1983 3 victories each for: Nordskog's Powerboat Magazine Special* Martin's Bounty Hunter early 39'** Elswick's Long Shot*** 1 for Rampage * 1 victory in APBA circuit and 2 in MBRA ** the victory in Mar Del Plata seem was with the "round deck" but I think was a mistake. Martin raced the World Championships in Mar Del Plata in december 1978 with the first 39',then raced ,one mounth after, the same race to take easy points for the World Final in Italy 1979,brought another boat from USA? Very eccentric.... *** alls three victories in 1980 with the first version of black Long Shot. One 39' gave to the Cigarette the fifth National Title ,after five years,in 1980 with Elswick. 2 speed records in long distance course. Powerboat Magazine Special in May 7 1978 averaged at 64,7 mph from san Francisco to Marina Del Rey. CAM of Nordskog July 23-25 1980 in 1300 miles from Canada to Mexico borders in 31 hours and 14' averaging 41,6 mph. Billy Martin won the Hurricane Classic in april 16 1978 debuting in him first 39' at 81,6 mph. It was the most speed average victory for a 39'. |
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All of this is too much for a Monday morning..............!
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Look what showed up on Ebay!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1977-...QQcmdZViewItem I wonder if it has any racing history?? |
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I've been bidding on it, pretty damn cool boat, nothing like working for a charity and seeing that show up in the paperwork!!!!
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Just a COOL old thread brought back to the top!
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Originally Posted by MidOcean
(Post 1884722)
Another copy of the old 40 was the "Offshore" built by Joe Debellous and Pete Van Kirk. The boat was 42, but had a 10' beam... Then the molds became the Marathon... then they were then leased to Don Smith of Ocean Smith Powerboats for his 42' center console with the pocket drives...
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Originally Posted by MidOcean
(Post 1884723)
the boat they used by the way was the old "Diamond Don" which caught fire and sat in front of Offshore Marine(the more famouse locations of Doller Offshore) in Ft. Lauderdale for a time n the 80's...
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
(Post 1892579)
Other year,other Bushmills Grand Prix,other 39'. march 17 1979
The Bill Elswick's white n.144 Long Shot. http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/1...mills79mv5.jpg that it became black with a different windscreen and engines hatches. http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/7...resizedjb7.png and more.... |
Originally Posted by Black Tornado
(Post 1753351)
"Blonde IV". It was a Cigarette 36'.
Famous to have marked an Hatteras. |
Does anyone Know where the 39 Squadron is, that was in NJ in 2004? Its on page 1.
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Originally Posted by automobili_v12
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Does anyone Know where the 39 Squadron is, that was in NJ in 2004? Its on page 1.
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From what i can find out about my little cat it was built by INNOVATION MARINE INC in the mid 80's the owners name of the company was MICHAEL DRURY
Is he still around and building boats? |
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I have some old pictures that I took as a teenager at the Pt. Pleasant NJ race of Longshot. Good thing I am not a photographer.
Longshot won that race, I cannot remember what year it was. |
Originally Posted by smarty
(Post 3600624)
i have some old pictures that i took as a teenager at the pt. Pleasant nj race of longshot. Good thing i am not a photographer.
Longshot won that race, i cannot remember what year it was. |
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
(Post 1888819)
Diamond Don was the former Really Ridicolous,former CAM2/Sunoco DX,the first 40' ever builded I think....
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----I just re-read this thread and noticed for the 1st time the name Joe DeBelous from Ft. Lauderdale. I used to know Joe in his 1st life at the Corvette Shop and would love to know what happened to him. Is he still around, as in alive??? Can anyone put me in touch with him??? He is an old friend.......Bill S
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what was the beam of these 40 sigarette's
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