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CMG 06-17-2006 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CAP071
Speed Racer should have used his secret weapons. I'm sure he has a saw blade that pops out of the side, or a tractor beam :D GO SPEED GO


:D :D :D

NRG 06-17-2006 08:33 AM

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How can a fountain press release raise insurance rates? Did it say something that is a big secret? Are you withholding secret information from the insurance agents? I doubt it.

You buy boat.
Boat has X engines with X HP.
Boat is capable of X speed.
Insurance is X amount per year.

This article will not cause any change in pricing and tells the insurance industry NOTHING more than they already know.

FeverMike 06-17-2006 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by otis311
Am I missing something here ?? I thought Ben Robertson moved over to the Cigarette Racing Team over the winter ??

Ben, lef Cig a few months ago. Not sure what he is really doing right now.

cuda 06-17-2006 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Scott B
Hey, more boats were torn up in PSL, Stuart and Boca Grande than Miamuh.. We're not always the bad guy bubba :D :D :D

Sorry Scott, but you know if I said south Florida, they read "Miami" anyway! I thought I would save them the translation process. :D

berns29scarab 06-17-2006 08:53 AM

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APPLES AND ORANGES...gorgeous boat yes, extremely fast yes BUT where was the fleet of super cats...Callan, Bud Select, etc......maybe i should run my 500cc 2 stroke GP race bike in the Blue Knights Motorcycle Poker run...yea yea thats the ticket. Still dont get the need for the NEON sign, but whatever

cuda 06-17-2006 08:54 AM

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Scott, btw, what do you pay a year for your Critter? Basically the same boat as Deb's, and same power.

offshoredrillin 06-17-2006 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by NRG
How can a fountain press release raise insurance rates? Did it say something that is a big secret? Are you withholding secret information from the insurance agents? I doubt it.

You buy boat.
Boat has X engines with X HP.
Boat is capable of X speed.
Insurance is X amount per year.

This article will not cause any change in pricing and tells the insurance industry NOTHING more than they already know.

agreed, but you guys are missing the point...."Talking without thinking is like shooting without aiming"...By spouting off the way he did, whilst he may think he is bolstering how great his product is, in my opinion is going to bring more un needed scrutiny of poker runs. What amazes me is the same people that are defending him were blasting a magazine article and the wall street journal for slanted views a few weeks ago...I only hope that we don't have the a tragedy this year like last year and those words can/will be used to blast us.

cuda 06-17-2006 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by two-air
Hey Cuda:

Didn't do Jax this year, planning on: 4th of July, Labor day and Key West. As usual we will try not to pass any boats. Remember, its all about the alcohol you consume after the run!

Sorry to hear you're selling the machine. I will miss getting hosed down by the rooster. :eek: :drink:

Say hi to Deb.

Frank

I can see why you didn't go to Jax this year, last year, it didn't look like you were having fun at all! :drink: :drink: :drink:

I can't look at that second picture without laughing. As I've said before, you and Jill are what this sport is all about. Let's just have fun! :D

Oh, btw, make sure Jill picks out your wardrobe for the poker run again. :)

jryan26 06-17-2006 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
Dang, there is some jealous people on this board. Face Fountain cleaned some clocks! Fountain backs up what they say. Fountain puts there money where there mouth is. Fountain does more ture real world R&D than anyother performance boat company and many companies all put together.
Yes I am a proud Fountain owner. :drink:

PS to those that do not think the start of a Poker Runs is not a race....go to a poker run and check it out then tell me that....what is there a prize for the first to the card stop such as King of the Hudson? Huh? :evilb:

True..

LostinBoston 06-17-2006 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sean H
what??? :confused:

http://www.superboat.com/docs/2006%2...%20website.pdf
page 82

12.1 Turbines Class Boats CAN NOT EXCEED 155 MPH any time during
the event. If any Turbine class boat exceeds the above stated speed during
the event the Boat will be disqualified from the event and fined $500.00
for the first offence. A second offence during the season the boat and crew
will be suspended for 2 additional events, and a third infraction the boat
and crew could be a suspended for the balance of the season or 12 months.

Hauling Trash 06-17-2006 10:06 AM

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This is not to Bad mouth Fountain BUT a Poker Run is not a race and they should have not put a statement out like that...............

It just BAD for Poker runs


Mike

lucky strike 06-17-2006 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CAP071
WOW Did anyone else read this Article?

He calls the big V-bottom boat “The Cat-Killer” because of its ability to outrun, out-handle and outlast the Super Cats, especially in rough water.

I was there & ran the entire 150 mile course.

The roughest water I saw was about 7 inches with occasional 9 incher.

RJATX71 06-17-2006 10:41 AM

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[QUOTE=CAP071]WOW Did anyone else read this Article?

“There were a lot of real fast boats out there. We don’t want to dispute the speeds they were running. But clearly and without question we were faster than they were. We have it on video.

WHERE IS THE VIDEO?

CAP071 06-17-2006 10:47 AM

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I'd love to see this video also. :evilb:

the duke 06-17-2006 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
agreed, but you guys are missing the point...."Talking without thinking is like shooting without aiming"...By spouting off the way he did, whilst he may think he is bolstering how great his product is, in my opinion is going to bring more un needed scrutiny of poker runs. .

Powrboat Mag is filled with ads every month saying our boat does X speed. and yes, I know Fountains ads say it, but so do many other ads.

CAP071 06-17-2006 10:48 AM

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maybe OSO can hook us up ??????????? HINT HINT :drink:

CAP071 06-17-2006 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lucky strike
I was there & ran the entire 150 mile course.

The roughest water I saw was about 7 inches with occasional 9 incher.


He claims he smoked everyone there

including Speed racer :(


I bet speed racer wasn't trying to race him, say it isn't so speed? It was probably chim chim driving or sprittle. :drink:

the duke 06-17-2006 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Hauling Trash
This is not to Bad mouth Fountain BUT a Poker Run is not a race and they should have not put a statement out like that...............

It just BAD for Poker runs
Mike

No where in that release does he say "race". He says he was faster than the Super Cats. Please don't try and tell us that in a Poker Run that the big boys aren't out there to be the fastest. Pick any poker run, and there is a part of it that all the big guns are running WOT to see who is first.

the duke 06-17-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CAP071
He claims he smoked everyone there

including Speed racer :(

There are multiple stories. Some say that Speed Racer passed him, and then backed off to let him be first to the card stop.

tomtbone1993 06-17-2006 11:02 AM

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marketing 101...............nice job Reggie :cool:

RJATX71 06-17-2006 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CAP071
I'd love to see this video also. :evilb:

You would think that a copy of this video could be downloaded to the OSO ONLINE VIDEO SECTION.

Downtown42 06-17-2006 11:20 AM

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I'd rather run next to a professional driver than some of the other idiots that don't know what they are doing.

Great Job Fountain. Kickn A$$ again.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...2/fountain.jpg

offshoredrillin 06-17-2006 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by the duke
Powrboat Mag is filled with ads every month saying our boat does X speed. and yes, I know Fountains ads say it, but so do many other ads.

again I agree there is nothing wrong with advertising your products top speed, BUT for him to say it about a poker run is reckless, ESPECIALLY after what happened last year at SOTW, personally i dont care if his boats are the first to do 200 in a V, just keep it away from a public event that could theoretically harm the future of poker runs...god forbid something does happen at a poker run in the near future, he WILL come under scrutiny... I'm also quite sure that he isnt the first nor the last that will make comments that may eventually need to be addressed.

Originally Posted by the duke
No where in that release does he say "race". He says he was faster than the Super Cats. Please don't try and tell us that in a Poker Run that the big boys aren't out there to be the fastest. Pick any poker run, and there is a part of it that all the big guns are running WOT to see who is first.

Again we agree, we are part of the boating scene, we know that this happens, but look at how much the industry had to speak up last year to protect the image. There is nothing wrong with it, but to gloat to a major publication is what the problem is.

offshoredrillin 06-17-2006 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
I'd rather run next to a professional driver than some of the other idiots that don't know what they are doing.

this is another great point, of course we would all rather ride next to a professional, but of all the boats in the run, what percentage are professional drivers? So again, even though we all accept the fast boats running, how professional was it? experiance motorcycle riders get taken out every day by the experiance car driver that make a bad decision. all it would take is one of those"idiots" doing something wrong.

Sean H 06-17-2006 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LostinBoston

i guess you havent read they also got rid of that class all together in SBI, so those rules dont really apply now do they?

everybody knows the fast cats are in OSS anyway.... :drink:

BigSilverCat 06-17-2006 11:50 AM

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I saw that.

offshoredrillin 06-17-2006 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigyellowcat
I saw that.

me too

Anonymous 06-17-2006 11:57 AM

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these pictures were taken after Speed Racer passed Rio roses. and you can see from the pics file numbers that it was correct.

offshoredrillin 06-17-2006 12:03 PM

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good save:D

mikes280 06-17-2006 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
these pictures were taken after Superman passed Rio roses. and you can see from the pics file numbers that it was correct.

looks like about 170 :evilb:

masher44 06-17-2006 12:10 PM

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Anonymous.....Thank God you held it together in such big water.... WOW!! you are the man :rolleyes:

the duke 06-17-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
, ESPECIALLY after what happened last year at SOTW,.

Accidents like this ARE where problems come in. I've never seen the final reports, but the last things I read said that a inexperienced driver made a sharp turn at high speed, even with a VERY experienced throttle man. Its unlikly that the guys running Fountains boat (and remember, Reggie was NOT in the boat) would make that same mistake.

Anonymous 06-17-2006 12:21 PM

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The rally took place along a 150-mile course on the St. John’s River. Event organizers divided the fleet into two groups, with the 100+ mph boats starting first. The Fountain team was waiting for the pace boat to signal the start when, according to Knight, about 16 boats jumped the gun, gaining a half-mile on the rest of the boats. “We were the seventeenth to start,” Knight said. “Within the first several miles, we had taken over the lead. When we came to the first card stop, there was nobody within half a mile of us.” After Rio Roses Fountain Mercury returned from the checkpoint, Knight reported, “All the big cats were waiting for us at the end of the canal like a street gang.” Due to no-wake zones, the lead changed hands several times, and the big MTI cat Speed Racer gave Rio Roses Fountain Mercury a serious run for its money.

"But the Fountain pulled ahead every time."
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This statement is not true.. the Picture thats on the front page of OSO was taken during the first of 2 races with Rio roses.. First race Rio roses pulled out of the cove first and was up on plane then Speed Racer proceeded to follow him and he was doing about 150 at that time as Speed RAcer pulled up next to him... then Speed Racer looked eye to eye and then hammered down... Speed racer began to pull several boat lengths on him... I know this was witnessed by many other people.David woods,and several other people going the other direction..

Where is that video?.. We sure would love to see it...

Then Speed Racer Slowed down for the no wake as the Fountain blew threw the bridge. After Speed Racer went threw the no wake bridge they saw the Ballistic boat Just in front of them.. Speed Racer slowed to about 80 and he didn't want to challenge... Then Speed Racer proceeded to catch the Rio Roses... after Catching the Rio Roses boat, Speed Racer pulled aside his starboard side @ about 145mph and then he picked up his pace.. Speed Racer pulled a head of the Rio Roses and reached a speed of 174 on the gps... Right after Speed Racer reached that speed a blower belt snapped on the starboard motor... and Speed Racer was out of the competition..


I'm sure if the Rio Roses boat wanted to claim his title. "CAT KILLER" .. I heard that the Speed Racer Boat is going to be at the poker run at Lake Of The Ozarks next weekend.. I'm Sure Speed would be up for the Challenge..

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“That was the story of the day,” Knight said. “We totally dominated the entire fleet of one hundred and twenty boats.”

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Ask Knight to come to lake of the Ozarks... To Back up his Statement..

chad1 06-17-2006 12:33 PM

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impressive. would rather see ballistic,or speed out front...

offshoredrillin 06-17-2006 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by the duke
Accidents like this ARE where problems come in. I've never seen the final reports, but the last things I read said that a inexperienced driver made a sharp turn at high speed, even with a VERY experienced throttle man. Its unlikly that the guys running Fountains boat (and remember, Reggie was NOT in the boat) would make that same mistake.

not disagreeing, regardless of how accidents happen, they do...I'll say this once more and then I'm done with it...I dont care if the boat did 200, the fact that a statement was made in print, in a publication that has the potential to do more harm to us than good is the problem, NOT the speed...promote your top speed in any advertisement medium where you pay for advertising. His statements were reckless and uncalled for.

cuda 06-17-2006 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the duke
There are multiple stories. Some say that Speed Racer passed him, and then backed off to let him be first to the card stop.

Yeah, I see that happening. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

eMotiondriver 06-17-2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LubeJobs42
We weren't even on plane yet, we still had at least 1/8 of a mile to the start. He passed us Flying!!!!! He was on plane well into the No wake zone. I think the article is very irresponsible for a man in his position. We are having a hell of a time getting insurance already. He makes it sound like we all showed up in full blown race boats with helmets, jackets and were running over 150. That's not the case. Articles like this can only hurt all of us. My insurance for my motion was $4800 last year. I now pay $17,000 for the new boat. Only one isurance company will even write cats. I hope they don't read his artcle.



That's why I killed my CAT... Insurance turned a fun hobby to a money cruncher, $2500 TO $10,500 IN ONE YEAR NO CLAIMS. The Motion went away.. To a brokerage and gone. :drink:

fountain1fan 06-17-2006 05:34 PM

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thanks fred right as allways . :cool:

NRG 06-17-2006 05:35 PM

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I really can't believe so many would have issues with a statement that reflects "positivley" on the performance boat industry. And from the largest (and most influencial) performance boat manufacturer. I think these press releases are good for most everyone (boat builders, accessory suppliers, OSO, etc). Love Fountain or hate them, the press is a positive story and important to this sport.

What would happen to the performance boat "industry" if the PR circuts shut down? Is today's offshore racing enough to keep the industry alive?

Just something to think about.

NRG 06-17-2006 05:38 PM

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Insurance turned a fun hobby to a money cruncher, $2500 TO $10,500 IN ONE YEAR NO CLAIMS. The Motion went away..
Do you think your rates went up because of a press release? Or because of Fountain? Or is it because boat claims have increased over the years?


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