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masher44 06-18-2006 04:09 PM

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I am just glad to see all of these cat guys so quiet..... didnt even take much to shut them up..... this thread must be true :cool:

berns29scarab 06-18-2006 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean H
why wouldn't reggie take his boat to the races that weekend instead of a poker run? there were some fast canopy boats in Puerto Rico that would of gave him a run for his money... :drink:

because he cant hang with the big cats...that was an easy one...lol :evilb:

Hey ya cant take anything away from the man, his boats are proven without a doubt. But SUPER CATS ARE IN A LEAGUE OF THERE OWN...

Brad Zastrow 06-18-2006 07:33 PM

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Is this going to be Fountain's new marketing campaign? Show up to Poker Runs in a twin 1500hp Race boat and pick on pleasure cats with wives and friends out for a ride. Then brag to the world about cat killers? I have lost a lot of respect for the man.

JCPERF 06-18-2006 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow
Is this going to be Fountain's new marketing campaign? Show up to Poker Runs in a twin 1500hp Race boat and pick on pleasure cats with wives and friends out for a ride. Then brag to the world about cat killers? I have lost a lot of respect for the man.

The difference between most pleasure boats at the poker runs and race boats are that the race boats have numbers on the side.

masher44 06-18-2006 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Zastrow
Is this going to be Fountain's new marketing campaign? Show up to Poker Runs in a twin 1500hp Race boat and pick on pleasure cats with wives and friends out for a ride. Then brag to the world about cat killers? I have lost a lot of respect for the man.


I am sure Reggie had cup holders on that rig

cuda 06-18-2006 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by JCPERF
The difference between most pleasure boats at the poker runs and race boats are that the race boats have numbers on the side.

And probably some better safety gear. If any of the cats would have smoked Reggie's boat, they'd be on here crooning! Sounds like some sour grapes to me.


Damn, I can't believe I've become a Reggie advocate. :(

Scott B 06-18-2006 07:48 PM

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Damn, it's still twitching....

eMotiondriver 06-18-2006 07:52 PM

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Wow, is threre still an insurance problem... :evilb: :evilb: :evilb: :eek: :bunny: :chick:

eMotiondriver 06-18-2006 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cuda
And probably some better safety gear. If any of the cats would have smoked Reggie's boat, they'd be on here crooning! Sounds like some sour grapes to me.


Damn, I can't believe I've become a Reggie advocate. :(

Ha Ha

CAP071 06-18-2006 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by eMotiondriver
Wow, is threre still an insurance problem... :evilb: :evilb: :evilb: :eek: :bunny: :chick:


Not for Pontoon boats, You Key West drinkin,scooter loosing, beer dribbling lip, 18 wheeler drivin, pee-peein with the seat down fool, :evilb:

Longrange4u 06-18-2006 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cuda
As far a statements saying that he alone is going raise the rates of insurance from what he does, is purely rediculous. Do you really think the insurance companies think that in poker runs, they are cruising around daintily with their ladies holding parasols to keep the sun off their delicate skin?

Insurance companies have armies of guys that crunch numbers. They don't have people looking for quotes in magazine to base their rates on. :rolleyes:

Just my noob opinion here... but insurance rates are based upon the risk vs: payout. I have a friend in the buisness and he said the highest cost to the boating insurance industry comes from the largely fradulent claims of sinking boats to upgrade. I think many people here need to look at the mirror before casting stones.

FeverMike 06-18-2006 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean H
why wouldn't reggie take his boat to the races that weekend instead of a poker run? there were some fast canopy boats in Puerto Rico that would of gave him a run for his money... :drink:

Because as you might know, Fountan is a SBI/APBA sponsor.

FeverMike 06-18-2006 09:27 PM

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WOW :eek: as most of you know I am a Fountain supporter and a 2 time Fountain owner and currently own a Fountain. I also really like a lot of other boat brands that many of you all here on OSO own.......
BUT......
Dayum there are some jealous people on this site! :eek: :cool:

offshoredrillin 06-18-2006 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
Dayum there are some jealous people on this site! :eek: :cool:

don't miscontrue it, I am not jealous of someone that spoke without thinking...you said it yourself you're a suporter, so your opinion could be biased.

BLee 06-18-2006 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sean H
why wouldn't reggie take his boat to the races that weekend instead of a poker run? there were some fast canopy boats in Puerto Rico that would of gave him a run for his money... :drink:


You mean TAKE his money. :D

That Fountain hauls ass but they need to put down the pipe saying it's a cat killer. There are a TON of cats that will destroy that boat in any condition. It's a fast vee though!

FeverMike 06-18-2006 09:43 PM

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As a Fountain owner you would think my opinion is biased? I just do not see anything wrong with the press release...it's a dang sales tool PEOPLE! Now just get over it....this is not the 1st time Fountain or other manufactures in other industry's have done this.

Jealous...jealous...jealous! :rolleyes:

offshoredrillin, if Outer, Cig, Formula or any other company other than Fountain would have brought a hi powered boat to a major poker run and blew away some high speed talkin' cats or blew away Fountain and posted an article about it on their website you would have jumped on their bangwagon...now admit it. :D

el indio 06-18-2006 09:49 PM

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Real cat killer!!!!!!!!!!!!

modfox21 06-18-2006 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Anonymous
these pictures were taken after Speed Racer passed Rio roses. and you can see from the pics file numbers that it was correct.



I guess most of you missed these pics i took! Bottom of page 4 Yes i know alot of people are biast. But i would think the pics speak for them selfs. After we were in front we were throttling back. Look at the tac's and Speedo... we obviously proved our point.. Just to damn bad that the helicopter couldnt keep up with us to witness this... So where is that video cause i cant wait to see it. Next time ill be sure to have a video camera that way it will end all the trash talk.. I just assumed that these pics would of been enough.

Both Boats are great boats dont get me wrong.. Both of these are the best in there class... But a 4700 lb v bottom racing a 12000 lb "dry" cat with the same power.. Doesnt really add up to me.. Look at the horsepower to weight ratio. We had 250 gallons of fuel and 4 people. Lets make a 44Mti cat 4700 lbs and see how fast it would go with that power. So for those to say that the Reggie has beat a "Cat hull" Is a far cry. thats apples to oranges. For the record Speed was turned all the way down.. We were only making 6 psi on starboard motor and 8psi on port. Im sure we can pulley the boat up and put the big props on.. we were just out having a good time with the little props. We were on the bump boxes. Thats what trashed our belt. Speed has alot left in her... Far more then most people would ever want to go with an open canopy. We have had it alot faster then in those pics.

I had alot of fun as i always do when im in Speed Racer. Its a great time meeting new people and seeing amazing boats and paint jobs... I Know any "gear head" would die for the chance just to be apart of this. I just wanted to say a special thanks for Randy K, David woods For allowing my self to be apart of this.. Thanks guys.

offshoredrillin 06-18-2006 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
As a Fountain owner you would think my opinion is biased? I just do not see anything wrong with the press release...it's a dang sales tool PEOPLE! Now just get over it....this is not the 1st time Fountain or other manufactures in other industry's have done this.

Jealous...jealous...jealous! :rolleyes:

offshoredrillin, if Outer, Cig, Formula or any other company other than Fountain would have brought a hi powered boat to a major poker run and blew away some high speed talkin' cats or blew away Fountain and posted an article about it on their website you would have jumped on their bangwagon...now admit it. :D

not all business is good business, and you may call it a sales tool, I call it poor judgement. I own a 42 Cig tiger, my girlfriend owns a 42 fountain with trip 525's and a Searay. I would be just as yanked had Skip Braver said this as it has the potential to affect me as well. Don't be so quick to think everyone in the world covets what others have.

fountaindriver 06-18-2006 09:57 PM

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I believe everyone is missing the point, both Speed Racer and Rio Roses were equipped with identical power, 1550 HP Quad Rotor Sterlings. Both boats are capable of running in excess of 175 MPH. I am not picking sides, I have a 42 1100 HP MTI and a 42 1100 HP Fountain, both power plants are by Sterling. My Fountain has a top end of ap[proximately 135 MPH my MTI has a top end of approximately 160 MPH. This sound about right, the cat should be approximately 20% faster. The new hull on Rio Roses is a major improvement, Speed Racer and Rio Roses have basically the same top end number.

Folks, I do not care if you love the man or hate him, but Reggie has made a major improvement for V hull technology.

masher44 06-18-2006 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
not all business is good business, and you may call it a sales tool, I call it poor judgement. I own a 42 Cig tiger, my girlfriend owns a 42 fountain with trip 525's and a Searay. I would be just as yanked had Skip Braver said this as it has the potential to affect me as well. Don't be so quick to think everyone in the world covets what others have.


GF has faster boats than you? :evilb:

cuda 06-18-2006 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BLee
You mean TAKE his money. :D

That Fountain hauls ass but they need to put down the pipe saying it's a cat killer. There are a TON of cats that will destroy that boat in any condition. It's a fast vee though!

I guess just none of them were at Jax..

BLee 06-18-2006 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cuda
I guess just none of them were at Jax..

Guess not. Alot of them were in Puerto Rico racing with other raceboats.

el indio 06-18-2006 10:17 PM

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Just my opinion and remember I had a concussion...........you fellas take this boating stuff a little to seriously................M.M........

Semper Fi 06-18-2006 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BLee
You mean TAKE his money. :D

That Fountain hauls ass but they need to put down the pipe saying it's a cat killer. There are a TON of cats that will destroy that boat in any condition. It's a fast vee though!

I have to disagree. Outerlimits has proved many times that their big V's can outrun cats in rough water.

BLee 06-18-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Semper Fi
I have to disagree. Outerlimits has proved many times that their big V's can outrun cats in rough water.

Yeah, I'm not saying EVERY cat ever built will outrun any vee bottom. I'm just saying that in general cats are faster than vee's when powered equally. Outerlimits and Fountain build some serious machines that deserve credit for their accomplishments. It will be fun to see the new Outerlimits cat when they complete it.

US1 Fountain 06-18-2006 10:30 PM

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Without waving my Fountain flag...

Was watching my Pegged DVD this weekend. Forget which poker run it was covering, but there was a few minutes devoted to a cat running with on board video showing it's 165mph?? speed and the comment being said about no one even close behind them, (or at least the jest of it). Guess I should have paid more attention to the details, but was more interested in the eye candy shots.

Speeds/crowds at poker runs are insane/unsafe. Those speeds should be saved for the race course where all the drivers are experienced, not just a few. Just my 2 cents

Byrdman 06-18-2006 11:11 PM

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Tick tock

Spine Tingler 06-18-2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse James
I would be willing to bet that was not the case if speed was out in front he would have stayed there until the first stop..but that is just my opinion so what do i know..

Speed didn't even see Roses till after the first card stop, he started toward the back. Then they took off from there. All that we could see at 128 was roostertails!!

Semper Fi 06-18-2006 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BLee
Yeah, I'm not saying EVERY cat ever built will outrun any vee bottom. I'm just saying that in general cats are faster than vee's when powered equally.

That I can agree with you. :D I have been at a few poker runs out in the Pacific Ocean where the Cigarettes and Outerlimits dominated the cats in rough water. There were some big cats with big power and they counldn't run with the fast V's. A 43' Scarab has been the fastest boat to Catalina (Scope Poker Run) Island from Long Beach past 2 yrs running :D

modfox21 06-18-2006 11:24 PM

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Thats right Superman We got a late start and we had to play catch up. After that weekend i bet you cant wait to get your boat!

Once we pulled into the cove where the first stop was... we didnt stop and decided to turn around and play with the Rio Roses boat. We acutally only made it to one of the card stops where the boat was tied up until we were able to pull the boat out of the water.

sleek1 06-19-2006 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by el indio
Real cat killer!!!!!!!!!!!!

El Indio,
Nice pics. Is that her on the cover of Playboy in the background? :rolleyes:

Fanatic 06-19-2006 01:17 AM

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You can piss and moan about Rio Roses and Reggie all you want but the man is a legend in the power boat industry.

Reggie didn't buy a well established company he built one. He then started racing and was a multiple world champion, HIMSELF. His boats have dominated the race curcuits for almost two decades and he has set many world speed records, HIMSELF.

So now Reggie took his V bottom to a poker run and some of you guys are crying about ? Give me a break.

I hope I have as much fortitude, drive and ambition as Reggie when I'm pushing 70. Kudos for Reginald Fountain.

offshoredrillin 06-19-2006 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by masher44
GF has faster boats than you? :evilb:

LOL, I can beat the searay if I get a holeshot:evilb:



Originally Posted by el indio
Just my opinion and remember I had a concussion...........you fellas take this boating stuff a little to seriously................M.M........

Now thats funny, glad to see the head whack is wearing off Mark :D

cuda 06-19-2006 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BLee
Guess not. Alot of them were in Puerto Rico racing with other raceboats.

There were cats at Marathon, I didn't see any pass him there either.

SCRAPMAN1 06-19-2006 08:17 AM

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Both Boats are great boats dont get me wrong.. Both of these are the best in there class... But a 4700 lb v bottom racing a 12000 lb "dry" cat with the same power.. Doesnt really add up to me.. Look at the horsepower to weight ratio. We had 250 gallons of fuel and 4 people. Lets make a 44Mti cat 4700 lbs and see how fast it would go with that power. So for those to say that the Reggie has beat a "Cat hull" Is a far cry. thats apples to oranges. For the record Speed was turned all the way down.. We were only making 6 psi on starboard motor and 8psi on port. Im sure we can pulley the boat up and put the big props on.. we were just out having a good time with the little props. We were on the bump boxes. Thats what trashed our belt. Speed has alot left in her... Far more then most people would ever want to go with an open canopy. We have had it alot faster then in those pics.

I GOTTA KNOW HOW THEY GOT THAT BOAT TO 4700 LBS THATS A FULL 4000 LBS LESS THAN A COMPARABLY FUELED 42 FOUNTAIN SUPER V WITH BRAVO DRIVES-- DO TELL.

two-air 06-19-2006 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cuda
Ok, I think this horse has finally quit twitching.

Someone burry that horse!! :drink: :drink:

Cat Killer??? I'm more scared of the Snake Killer!!

44MTI 06-19-2006 09:45 AM

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I obviously own an MTI (screen name), but I have also owned 2, 100+ mph 42 fountains. I have always had great respect for Reggie and his boats, but I have no respect for a liar. And that is what this press release is.I know that the Fountains fans won't like my choice of words, but the truth hurts sometimes.The few of us that were lucky enough to see this run know that Speed handed Rio there A$$, Twice. Both times were after the first card stop. Ben Robertson got out of Rio and stated that Speed Racer had passed them, This I also heard, not hear say.

ApacheCarl 06-19-2006 10:25 AM

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I just read Reggies press release and this whole thread. I am a huge Vee fan, but this press release is pure marketing B.S.

To say a Vee handles better than a Cat at speeds approaching 150+ is just plain ignorant. The cat has a much wider contact point to the water. In Reggies world the laws of physics are suspended and Fountains are so fast they can fold space..... yada yada yada.

At least this Fountain didn't delaminate like the one in Ft. Myers did, so i guess that would be good news.

Sean H 06-19-2006 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by cuda
There were cats at Marathon, I didn't see any pass him there either.

there was one sterndrive cat at Marathon, and it has 525's .... :rolleyes:


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