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delivered it ran 72 mph?..... i thought it ran 90+ with 525s... i kinow it ran 90+ with 525s....

whats the deal with that boat?

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If it is the one with the blue paint job then the boat runs in the 120's now. It has been changed to #6's with 1000 bob teaque engines. Boat is real nice. One of a kind.

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that is it... but the article claims rerigg gains of 40mph and that when delivered it only ran 72!?!?!?!

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I thought that was wierd as well. Even Hot Boat tested one in the mid 80's I think.

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Big Big difference in the drivetrain package that is in the boat now. Boat has had almost a full re rig

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typo?

it happens. :D

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That does sound like alot of gain in speed. Granted he now has quadruple the HP. What kills me is that he spent all that money for the boat and assuming he sea trialed it before he took delivery he knew what he was getting into .Then to be pissed off because it wasnt fast enough then to spend an extra $200k on it to have it rerigged just blows my mind. Why didnt he just have it built that way to begin with and not have the headaches that he had. Do it right the first time it wont cost you as much in the long run. (Of course the article never did say if he purchased the boat new or used). He probably could get another 15mph if he lost those VI drives and installed Teague drives (alot less weight and can still handle the HP)

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forget the rerigg... twin 525s...twin step all epoxy...72mph? something aint right....how come no one is up in arms about this but the apache/chief thing went 10pages in ten minutes cause it wwas delivered dirty?... this thing could not go that slow... did he forget to trim up :rolleyes:

i dont buy it only ran 72... a straight gun with 500s runs that

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I am hoping someone from Dragon jumps in. Either the 72 mph was a typo, someone other than Dragon rigged it, or the boat is a turd! What is the story here?

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Craig Barrie(?) when in Miami even stated 90 with 525's. I'm hip with the typo theory See it all the time in PB, and any other mag for that matter.

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This boat belongs to a very close riend of mine, The owner Eric T was not happy with the top speed of the boat and decided to upgrade to large power. He is very happy with the boat now. Craig built a beautiful boat and Eric took it one step farther. 525's don't cut it in los Angeles

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So now Teague drives can easily handle 1000hp and are 15mph faster than SSM6? It's well documented that I'm no fan of #6s but please...

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It takes less HP to turn them they weigh less and yes the new Teague drives are rated to handle up to 1000hp. Maybe not 15mph but more mph and probably would have cost less.

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how much do the new drives cost?

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Well, Bob Teague did the re-rig, so I think Bob and Eric probably looked at all the options. :rolleyes:

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I remember reading that someone else originally rigged the boat. (not Dragon) I think they weren't happy with the rigging and that what started the problem. They seem to have kept the issue quiet.

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itwasnt a typo... they clearly state that the boat "barely ran 72 with over a thousand horsepower under the hatch"... 200k to fix it to run 110 and gain 40 mph?... stock should run 90+

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Thank you for the nice complements on how I spend my money. :rolleyes: I am the owner of the boat! For what ever reason, the boat had a few issues. Funny, I don't remember being pissed off. I was FRUSTRATED! And NO I did not sea trial it. Craig Barrie builds a great boat and I believe in him and trust him. If you have been around boat long enough, every manufacturer has a boat or two that has gremlins. That is just boating. As for the VI Drives, they are bullet proof. I was not willing to use a Teague Platinum drive and have to baby the boat.....

So, again, thank you for your kind words.

Eric

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Oh, yeah. I must have not trimmed the drives up. :rolleyes: I tried 4 sets of props and I could not get the boat to go any faster.

Everyone is so nice on this board. I can't believe it. Instead of thalking CHIT, how about wow too bad you spent all that money, I hope you like the boat now.?

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Thank you Sydwayz. :D :D :drink:

Finally someone talking sence on this thread. Bob and I discussed all of the options and the package I have is what I wanted.

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A Donzi 38 ZR pushes 90+ w/ 525's, I don't see the attraction here. This guy had to spend an ADDITIONAL $200K to get happy. I would be burned, or is everyone in California got that much $ ?

I remember a PB article that had a Top Gun and a Donzi 38 ZR pushing 100 plus with naturally aspirated engines.

Wannabe

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Man, there sure are alot of experts on OSO these days!!!! :D :evilb: :drink: :evilb:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Semper Fi, is correct. Dragon did NOT rig the boat originally. CB used another shop for that. Which I should point out he no longer uses. I don't like to air dirty laundry publicly. Semper is right I kept the issue quite. What good would it have done to ***** and moan on the board?

I had two options, sell the boat, or do a complete rerig and fix the numerous problems it had. I love the boat, I had no intention of selling it. So for fun I decided to repower the boat.

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Good for you Eric. Remember....It's your money, your boat and YOU are the one that gets to enjoy it!!!!!! :)

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Eric, the boat is gourgous and you are happy and got what you want... that is all that matter... congrats.

BTW, Eric got off cheap compared to that 2 million dollar apache rerig.
:D

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I could'nt have said it better. :drink:

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Thank you very much OldSchool. If you were not so far away I would ask you to come out and ride with me in the Catalina Ski Race this Saturday.

Thanks again. :D

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I remember this was the first article I read from this months issue of PB And from at least the standpoint from which it was written it stated that you were so "frustrated " that you were going to give up boating completly just because your boat didnt deliver what you thought it should. If that were me being "frustrated" that much would mean pissed off. If you got more money than brains then you got what you deserved by not sea trialing your boat and finding out it didnt perform to your expectations before you ever paid for it. It is a nice looking boat and im glad it performs the way you want it to now but for what you spent (both boat and rerigg) you could have had a boat that ran 120 out of the box. (just my 2 cents enjoy)

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Thank you Stormrider. I really appreciate it. Besides if I would have bought an Outerlimits I would would have spent the same amount of money in total.

I am just a squirrel trying to get a nut compared to that Apache. Which, I might add is BADD AZZ. That guy is the King of Big Ballers. :D

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No bash intended here, but maybe 90mph wasn't enough for him either. 120+mph is very impressive IMO.

He now has a boat that is FAST and bullet proof.

Sam

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Eric are you pulling on Saturday or watching?

We missed you guys in Havasu.

Might see you Saturday and Sunday if you're out in the "LBC"

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Big Dady,

You are right, I could have bought a boat out of the box that did 120. There are day's that very idea crossed my mind.

I really don't think it was necessary to take a shot at me with the more money than brains comment. You came on here attacking me and my boat. WTF did I do to you?

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Sam, thanks. I do have a boat that is bullet proff with Teague's engines and the VI's all I need to do is buy oil, gas and an ocasional dinner for Teague to say thanks for making my boat a great boat.

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Hey Chris, we missed you and BB too.

Scott Conrad and I are pulling a skier Saturday.

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You had the nerve to buy something that was nicer than his 1973 Wellcraft tri-hull!!! :eek:

:D :evilb: :drink: :evilb:

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Congrats Eric,

Great job of seeing it through and prevailing in the end.

Dean

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That was funny chit. :D

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Thank you Dean.

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Amen brother! When I put my boat together I got sooo many told ya so's and woulda coulda shoulda's..... Now that the gremlins are worked out and they are out breaking chit I try not to say anything..

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Why not run the Rum Run? Do it.