Ocean Running Techniques
07-24-2006, 01:04 PM
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Re: Ocean Running Techniques
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Does that mean the boat should be trimmed down a bit?
When I keep the nose down, increasing speeds seem more stable and launches have a much more comfortable landing. Yet others seems to imply that trimming up is best.
Does that mean the boat should be trimmed down a bit?
When I keep the nose down, increasing speeds seem more stable and launches have a much more comfortable landing. Yet others seems to imply that trimming up is best.
07-24-2006, 01:06 PM
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Re: Ocean Running Techniques
Originally Posted by StillHaulin@61
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You're certainly correct on that point!
But it seems that trottle technique, wave angles and trim settings have a distinct impact in achieving a comfort zone offshore. My first couple of runs were a about 10mph below my current comfort zone, therefore I'm convinced that there is much more to learn.
You're certainly correct on that point!
But it seems that trottle technique, wave angles and trim settings have a distinct impact in achieving a comfort zone offshore. My first couple of runs were a about 10mph below my current comfort zone, therefore I'm convinced that there is much more to learn.
I did a sea trial on my 29' outlaw this weekend. I am used to the boat and know how to drive it. When the new owner was driving, it was like a different boat. He will get the hang of it, but its learning your boat, and sharpening your driving skills.
07-24-2006, 01:13 PM
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Re: Ocean Running Techniques
In larger seas in the LI sound I would keep the drive level and the tabs down just a bit. Try to keep the boat running level w/o much bow rise.
This would be in 3ft choppy water w/o swells.
I was out once in the Atlantic, 4-5ft swells w/ 2-3s on top coming from the rear corner.
Had the wife and 2 small children in the boat and was getting a bit beaten up running 38-40. If it was just me and a bud, I feel i could have run 50 and gotten to air out the boat a bit more, making it a more comfortable level ride.
Maybe you can see if some west coast oso bretheren to take you out or take them out on your boat and see if they can show you.
This would be in 3ft choppy water w/o swells.
I was out once in the Atlantic, 4-5ft swells w/ 2-3s on top coming from the rear corner.
Had the wife and 2 small children in the boat and was getting a bit beaten up running 38-40. If it was just me and a bud, I feel i could have run 50 and gotten to air out the boat a bit more, making it a more comfortable level ride.
Maybe you can see if some west coast oso bretheren to take you out or take them out on your boat and see if they can show you.
07-24-2006, 01:22 PM
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Re: Ocean Running Techniques
Originally Posted by Stormrider
.... Maybe you can see if some west coast oso bretheren to take you out or take them out on your boat and see if they can show you.
I have found that heading upwind (directly against the waves) is a "launch vehicle", and I reduce my speed about a third to a half. Downwind I worry about plowing into a trough. However, running against or with them at a 45-degree angle of attack seems to be optimum. Doe you guys ever change your course to a destination in order to achieve a better "angle of attack"?
07-24-2006, 01:31 PM
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"More tab" when running against the swell 
Hey I saw/heard you runing this weeekend. boat sounded and looked great! I was whistling at you from the beach while you were chillin near the shore. Don't know if you saw me or not.
I may have a hoist for sale for you and did you look into Ventura Isl. Marina. I was over there Friday and they have docks available.
Ok, back to your thread.
Hey I saw/heard you runing this weeekend. boat sounded and looked great! I was whistling at you from the beach while you were chillin near the shore. Don't know if you saw me or not.
I may have a hoist for sale for you and did you look into Ventura Isl. Marina. I was over there Friday and they have docks available.
Ok, back to your thread.
07-24-2006, 01:33 PM
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And just to let you guys replying to this thread know...Channel Islands/Ventura channel is some of the roughest waters (if not THE roughest waters in Southern California. the currents and wind wrap up between the islands and the coast and make for 4-6 footers almost every day. I've turned around in a Tiger before. Just too nasty.
07-24-2006, 01:41 PM
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Re: Ocean Running Techniques
Originally Posted by thisistank
..... Hey I saw/heard you runing this weeekend. boat sounded and looked great! I was whistling at you from the beach while you were chillin near the shore. Don't know if you saw me or not.
Didn't hear your whistle cause I just love running with the pipes open! Rode with Chris (Baja 272 Purple/Pink) Sat/AM and took friends out Sunday on my 'lil 232. As my 5yo grandson would say .... JUST LOVIN' IT!
Why don't you join Chris and I on the water sometime.
07-24-2006, 01:44 PM
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[QUOTE=thisistank]And just to let you guys replying to this thread know...Channel Islands/Ventura channel is some of the roughest waters (if not THE roughest waters in Southern California. the currents and wind wrap up between the islands and the coast and make for 4-6 footers almost every day. I've turned around in a Tiger before. Just too nasty.[/QUOTE]
Tank,
I cant believe you said that out loud
, I thought Cig Owners have a reputation to protect.
Still Haulin,
Quote"My thread is really not intended as a search for additional speed, but to better understand techniques in running offshore waters. It would be interesting to understand how pilots of larger boats would modify their technique if running offshore in a 23" boat.""
It's easy to understand how pilots of larger boats modify their technique when running offshore......they keep buying bigger boats
Tank,
I cant believe you said that out loud
, I thought Cig Owners have a reputation to protect. Still Haulin,
Quote"My thread is really not intended as a search for additional speed, but to better understand techniques in running offshore waters. It would be interesting to understand how pilots of larger boats would modify their technique if running offshore in a 23" boat.""
It's easy to understand how pilots of larger boats modify their technique when running offshore......they keep buying bigger boats
07-24-2006, 01:52 PM
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Re: Ocean Running Techniques
Originally Posted by CasinoRunner
It's easy to understand how pilots of larger boats modify their technique when running offshore......they keep buying bigger boats
OK, if you guys where running offshore in a 23' Baja, at what speeds would you find your "comfort zone"? Also, how would you deal with trim, wave angles, and throttle control?
