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FeverMike 07-24-2006 07:59 PM

Center Console or Go Fast?
 
Vote as to what style of boat you would rather have. Both are performance style 38' boats with one being a triple outboard and the other a go fast style with twin I/O's.

Tony Montana 07-24-2006 08:13 PM

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Tell me your kidding to get a rise out of everyone :rolleyes: :confused:

ToTheMax 07-24-2006 08:20 PM

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At that length, its gotta be a go-fast, but if this was for less than 25', I would have to choose both! :drink:

FeverMike 07-24-2006 08:24 PM

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tony what would I be kidding about? Seriously what would you purchase if you were going to buy a new boat in the 38 foot range?
A very sleek, racey and sporty 38 foot center console with triples or a 38 go fast style boat?

What do you all think the pro's and con's of each boat are?

I can tell you the go fast will be faster but I also can tell you the center console is easier to maintane for every weekend style of boating. Plus you can have more friends on board and the boat is easy to beach and get on and off. Also with the CC you can dive, fish, cruise and party plus the CC is easy to insure and gets better gas mileage....so what would you all rather have?

THEJOKER 07-24-2006 08:40 PM

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Mike:

After riding in your Fountain 38 CC W/trips , I'm a 4 stroke fan. Those Verados are super quite!

FeverMike 07-24-2006 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by warbird
Why would you limit the CC to three motors? Is it 'cause you're limiting the g-f to twins?

No the 38 CC could have quads....not limiting...but most 38's have trips that's all...if quads on a 38 CC would make you buy it then tell us.

It's more of a lifestyle question/poll and not really a direct performance poll.
thanks, Mike

DRIVEN1 07-24-2006 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
Vote as to what style of boat you would rather have. Both are performance style 38' boats with one being a triple outboard and the other a go fast style with twin I/O's.

Mike,
Is this someway of convincing yourself that it is okay to buy the go-fast style boat? :D You know what the poll is going to say. You know what you need. :evilb: You already have the wife's blessing. Just go ahead and do it so I have someone else to run with.
On another note the guy that has the 35 Donzi with triple 225s just ordered a 2007 Fountain 38 LX with triple 275 rados on it. So another Fountain is coming to the development.
Maybe this weekend you can take those pictures if you are going to be around? Thanks Mike

fountain1fan 07-24-2006 09:09 PM

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mike you know my answer 83 mph opti's xs's .. :D x4

fountain1fan 07-24-2006 09:12 PM

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my dream boat's a 31 sfc with opti xs;s sweet :drink:

DRIVEN1 07-24-2006 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fountain1fan
mike you know my answer 83 mph opti's xs's .. :D x4

I was just thinking that a 38 with quad 300 optis would be bad ass. Maybe hit 88 mph?

fountain1fan 07-24-2006 09:27 PM

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jest might . :drink:

Tony Montana 07-24-2006 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
tony what would I be kidding about? Seriously what would you purchase if you were going to buy a new boat in the 38 foot range?
A very sleek, racey and sporty 38 foot center console with triples or a 38 go fast style boat?

What do you all think the pro's and con's of each boat are?

I can tell you the go fast will be faster but I also can tell you the center console is easier to maintane for every weekend style of boating. Plus you can have more friends on board and the boat is easy to beach and get on and off. Also with the CC you can dive, fish, cruise and party plus the CC is easy to insure and gets better gas mileage....so what would you all rather have?


Ok wasn't trying to piss you off. I would go for the go fast in 38 foot flavor of choice would be Powerplay or Top gun :cool:

FeverMike 07-24-2006 09:45 PM

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Tony, I'm not pissed off, mad, insulted, hurt. :D Just wanted to make sure you and others understood the post.

Driven1, you freakin ruined me! I was totally happy until that short little ride that day. Freakin' awesome! The problem right now is insurance in Florida and finding someone that will trade for a boat I want without playing all the games marine dealers love to play. I need to make sure I want to get back into a go fast. You know those Verado's seem to be awesome and reliable and my Fountain 38TE is a stout strong good running boat and the 38TE Fountain like most other CC's is super easy to take care of. Driven, if the weather holds out this Sunday would be the day we would go boating.I will happily take photo's of you running. We will go Saturday if our car comes in on Friday but it looks like delivery day for the car is Saturday. Call me!

This poll however is not toally for me...it;s for some else too.

Lucky Strike Jr 07-24-2006 09:49 PM

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Fever Mike-

Have you talked to buyafountain.com about trading?

rush 07-24-2006 09:50 PM

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Mke I had a 2000 38 lighting and traded on a 2003 38 te cc fountain I traded because its maintaince free. I got tired of climbing in the bilge but I miss my lighting for the adrenlin rush I got, I'am feeling the same way as you!

THEJOKER 07-24-2006 09:56 PM

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What length is Cigarette's new CC? Beam? Speed?

FeverMike 07-24-2006 10:00 PM

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Rush, yes I do not want to be climbing in the bildge to fix CMI headers, and other stuff. 1st of all I am too big to be in abildge and 2nd of all I'd have to take my prosthetic leg off just to manuver around the bildge.

Lucky Strike, I do not believe I've talked to buyafountain.com but I have talked to some and it seems no one really wants to throw some numbers out that seem do-able...just highly inflated numbers or they do not want to give me squat on my trade...which is brand new 8 months old with low hours...Joker on here was on my boat a few weeks ago and can vouch for it's shape. Anyway the 07's are coming out so someone will need to dump something. I wish my local Fountain dealer whom I bought my 38TE from delt in the performance Fountain's more and just wanted to move some.

cuda 07-24-2006 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
Rush, yes I do not want to be climbing in the bildge to fix CMI headers, and other stuff. 1st of all I am too big to be in abildge and 2nd of all I'd have to take my prosthetic leg off just to manuver around the bildge.
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That's what warranties are for. :drink:

I didn't see the "both" option in your poll, which is the way I went, of course neither my go fast, or my CC is 38 feet long. I bought my CC brand new in 1988. I watched them build it. I've always said it's the last boat I'd ever sell. It's just so much easier to deal with, especially just being 18 feet long, but it is a BIG 18 footer. Lots of freeboard, and 8 foot beam. It's just so versatile too. I've been 40 miles out in the Gulf with it, and fished in 2 feet of water, pulled skiers, kneeboards, and just cruise in it. The best thing is, in the 18 years I've owned it, I have NEVER been towed in. Deb and I call it "Old Reliable". I just spent a few days on a lake in South Carolina with it.

With all that being said, there's still nothing quite like riding around in a performance boat. As I'm sure you know, it's a totally different feeling. :drink:

blingbling 07-25-2006 12:15 AM

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Fever, that's a tough question. My last boat was a 160mph 36 Nor-tech. Sold it, and have a CC now. I got another go fast coming, but I got to say, my CC has been the best all around boat I've owned. As long as I can afford boating I will always have a CC. Good luck in your choice. BTW, I did not vote. Your questions like do ya want a Corona with Lime in Havasu AZ, or a Goose and seven with a splash of OJ in the FL keys.

Spicy 07-25-2006 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by blingbling
Your questions like do ya want a Corona with Lime in Havasu AZ, or a Goose and seven with a splash of OJ in the FL keys.

Interesting Question for sure, as I feel it pertains to me in my current situation.....I have my 33/36 Concept for sale now (OSO Classifieds) and will be looking for a 38' go-fast..... I have questioned myself about this decision with all the points that some of you have made, regarding gas, insurance, maintence etc... My last two boats have been CC and just looking for a change??? Both would be the right answer, but I cant afford that and I only have one lift to store whatever I own/buy... blingbling pretty much summed it up with his drink comment...... :D :drink: :D :drink:

sakoutis3 07-25-2006 07:41 AM

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I own both and spend more time on my Outer Limits. Its more comfortable with more amenities. Plus I like the sound of triple blower motors better. :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

CustomRigger101 07-25-2006 08:32 AM

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it's hard to tell ya.. cc are nice and easy to clean.. and if you drop a motor it's only 10-15k to rig a new one

go-fast is go-fast.. got to love them

i'm going to tell ya BOTH

FeverMike 07-25-2006 10:00 AM

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WOW, this is closer than I thought with OSO being a performance site.

DoTheMath 07-25-2006 10:06 AM

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Looks like a close contest thus far... I'd vote for the CC, for now anyway. Although I love a go-fast as much as the rest of you, (I've owned 4) the CC, if done right gets my vote in that category. If you could take a performance boat hull / bottom lets say, put a cabin in the bow area and open all around the rest of the cockpit... With the way O/B's have come around in the last 5+ years, I would think it would be the best of all worlds. Yeah, you're not going to go 100mph, but how often do you do that anyway!? And I know not everyone is into the CC's but I agree with Mike, it is a great compromise, and the lack of maintenance and extra room is great.

So, case-in-point, two weekends ago I am out on the lake and I come across a 47' Outerlimits GTX and it is sitting in the middle of the lake - dead! Hatch is up, one motor not running and the other - when it does run - is burping black smoke! Ouch! And here I am in my center console Whaler, 4-stroke O/B just humming along and enjoying my time on the water. Later that day I run into Cowisl at the marina and he said that the guy "was" running about 130 earlier that day and had just taken delivery of the boat. Bigger ouch! (I would have stopped but he had another 39 OL with him and he seemed to be running just fine, so I thought I'd leave them be, I don't typically pass by boats in distress...). So, long story longer - I am more about spending time on the water, esp. now that I have a 16 mo. old and he loves to be out on the boat, (and with our short season up here in the NE), as opposed to being in the bilge or on the trailer broken. Thus my current quest to build a 28' - 30'-ish, twin O/B something-or-other as my next boat.

hammer01 07-25-2006 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by sakoutis3
I own both and spend more time on my Outer Limits. Its more comfortable with more amenities. Plus I like the sound of triple blower motors better. :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

HOW DOES THE CC HANDLE ROUGH WATER WITH IT BEING SO MUCH LIGHTER TYPICALLY THAN ITS COMPARABLE GO-FAST, MEANING 38 LIGHTNING TO A 38 CC FOUNTAIN AS AN EXAMPLE. JUST CURIOUS IF YOU GET A LITTLE MORE WAVE POUNDING DUE TO LESS REINFORCEMENT IN THE FRONT. TIA HAMMER

John W. Blake 07-25-2006 10:16 AM

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bought the 38' Donzi ZFO - with 3 - 275's in feb. Love it.
just a matter of what you want and where you live

THEJOKER 07-25-2006 10:28 AM

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Performance Center Consoles Mike - heck ya. I think the narrow beam big boats 8ft - 8.5 (38ft) would do well in the rough. What speeds would be attained? Say 8-9 thousand lbs w/ triple Verados? Financing , insurance would be much easier on the wallet , right?

BY U BOY 07-25-2006 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by John W. Blake
bought the 38' Donzi ZFO - with 3 - 275's in feb. Love it.
just a matter of what you want and where you live

WERE YOU AT SEABROOK BEACH CLUB SAT. IF THAT WAS YOU THAT BOAT IS AWSOME I HAVE ALWAYS WANTED A LARGER CC BUT I JUST CANT SEEM TO GET RID OF THE 21. I ALSO WOULD RATHER SPEND THE TIME IN MY SCARAB.

rush 07-25-2006 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by hammer01
HOW DOES THE CC HANDLE ROUGH WATER WITH IT BEING SO MUCH LIGHTER TYPICALLY THAN ITS COMPARABLE GO-FAST, MEANING 38 LIGHTNING TO A 38 CC FOUNTAIN AS AN EXAMPLE. JUST CURIOUS IF YOU GET A LITTLE MORE WAVE POUNDING DUE TO LESS REINFORCEMENT IN THE FRONT. TIA HAMMER


My 38 cc fountain is heavery than the 38 lighting, I don't think it rides as good as the light. because its 2 feet wider, they say it has same basic hull just wider, the cc has a cabin .

DoTheMath 07-25-2006 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by THEJOKER
Performance Center Consoles Mike - heck ya. I think the narrow beam big boats 8ft - 8.5 (38ft) would do well in the rough. What speeds would be attained? Say 8-9 thousand lbs w/ triple Verados? Financing , insurance would be much easier on the wallet , right?


Sounds like a good combination to me Brian, all-around... :D

John W. Blake 07-25-2006 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by by U Boy
were You At Seabrook Beach Club Sat. If That Was You That Boat Is Awsome I Have Always Wanted A Larger Cc But I Just Cant Seem To Get Rid Of The 21. I Also Would Rather Spend The Time In My Scarab.

was not out last Saturday but if it ever stops raining will be out this weekend .

LEOPAJM 07-25-2006 10:47 AM

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Another thing to keep in mind with the CC w/ outboards is the ability to run SLOW when the conditions dictate .... just enough to stay on plane in the rough with out getting the **** knocked outta ya .... something that many traditional go-fast's are unable to do , especially the way most are propped , and rigged with higher X dim. for top speed numbers ect ...

If I could only have one , I'd have to vote for the CC ... NO QUESTION !!!

rush 07-25-2006 10:48 AM

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I was told this boat was running 83/84 mph with 4 250 mercs, I was told he now has 4 300 optimax on it ,I would love to no for sure,and how fast it is!

FeverMike 07-25-2006 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by hammer01
HOW DOES THE CC HANDLE ROUGH WATER WITH IT BEING SO MUCH LIGHTER TYPICALLY THAN ITS COMPARABLE GO-FAST, MEANING 38 LIGHTNING TO A 38 CC FOUNTAIN AS AN EXAMPLE. JUST CURIOUS IF YOU GET A LITTLE MORE WAVE POUNDING DUE TO LESS REINFORCEMENT IN THE FRONT. TIA HAMMER

The 38TE Fountain CC I have is a 10'6" beam and the ride can not be compared to the 38 Fountain Lightning with it's 8'3" beam. Plus my 38TE weight somewhere around 13-14 thousand lbs under normal load.

FeverMike 07-25-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rush
I was told this boat was running 83/84 mph with 4 250 mercs, I was told he now has 4 300 optimax on it ,I would love to for shur,and how fast it is!

I rode on that Hooter boats at the 2005 Miami boat show. Totally awesome. We hit 81 going out Gov Cut with 5 people and 3/4 fuel just flying over the waves.

FeverMike 07-25-2006 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by LEOPAJM
Another thing to keep in mind with the CC w/ outboards is the ability to run SLOW when the conditions dictate .... just enough to stay on plane in the rough with out getting the **** knocked outta ya .... something that many traditional go-fast's are unable to do , especially the way most are propped , and rigged with higher X dim. for top speed numbers ect ...

If I could only have one , I'd have to vote for the CC ... NO QUESTION !!!


that is an awesome point and one technique I use often when the water turn rough with people on board not use to boating.

FeverMike 07-25-2006 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by THEJOKER
Performance Center Consoles Mike - heck ya. I think the narrow beam big boats 8ft - 8.5 (38ft) would do well in the rough. What speeds would be attained? Say 8-9 thousand lbs w/ triple Verados? Financing , insurance would be much easier on the wallet , right?

Joker...right on with the insurance situation. I have a perfect driving record...no speeding tickets in 6 years...perfect credit with a score over 740, own my house on the water and I have been calling about insurance on a 38 or 42 Fountain and hardly anybody will touch me...plus no one will do wind storm damage. The performance boat industry right now is in or going into a big sales slump with gas prices at marinas around $3.80-$4 a gallon, insurance problems, higher finance rates and the overall economy. It use to be so easy to buy and insure a performance boat.

thedonz 07-25-2006 11:30 AM

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i will admit center consoles are fun when you want to have 10 people on board ( but on the real when will you have that much people). But there is nothing like pulling up some where bar, restaurant and everyone hating you because of how loud your boat is.....or just ripping it in the ocean on a long slick close deck Topgun at 108 mph :D on 2-3 footers...that's all worth the maintenance :D

mike

Chris Sunkin 07-25-2006 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
WOW, this is closer than I thought with OSO being a performance site.

I'm astonished. I wonder sometimes about who's on here. I used to thing it was hard-core go-fast enthusiasts. I'm coming to find that there are a bunch of tennage kids and no-boat guys as well. If you want to tool around with a bunch of broads and kids, the CC is a good choice plus it lets you take an occasional blast. If you want to run with the big boys, you gotta' ante up with a real boat.

Depends alot on where you're at too. If you're on some little inland lake the offshore might be a bit much. On the Great Lakes or open ocean, you'll never look back.

THEJOKER 07-25-2006 12:01 PM

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Dependability is a big factor w/ the egg beaters too. Going to The Bahamas and tooling around I'd take the CC. We broke a drive in a 38 TG coming back from Grand Bahama (middle of the Gulfstream). Oh yea guess who rescued me from a long idle home? , OSO Steve!


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