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in "on coming" seas?
We came home from the Chicago Air and Water show on Saturday and were greeted by a stiff north wind and building seas to 3-5'
The tabs were set at halfway and she just motored through those suckas...we parked a 38' F****** on the way back.

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beak? :evilb:

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REAGIE DESIGNED IT,, world record holder! :evilb:
its not a tub like ol's cigs etc.. :eek: :drink: :evilb:
just kidding
but the fountains sure do run good in that snot when you get on top and pour on the steam.

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OHHHH, this oughta be good. :evilb: :drink:

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Cause you were in a lake with a lake boat?....

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ahhhh that hurts,, :eek:
that was a good one, :drink:

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I was on the "Lake" in my lake boat that day as well. I can tell you Lake Michigan at 22,300 square miles can be some of the roughest, hardest to read waters in the world. I would love to be on the ocean instead. At least on the ocean the waves are all the same with no holes to drop in like the this little lake we boat on. It seems about every 25th wave is a rogue that looks like a wall of water coming at you with a very large hole behind it and another two waves behind almost as large. It is very tough to maintain a steady speed. You start to get confident thinking there just can not be more of those tidal waves coming and you start to build up speed and then another big one comes along.

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A few of the old-time races at Grand Haven were regarded as some of the worst water conditions in offshore racing history.

I've been in a few Fountains and have yet to have anyone ever suggest they were "wave crushers".

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Hey i love cigs/apaches, but i been on a 42 fountain and it was a nice/solid boat.......i think Rio Roses say's it all..........

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Summed up very well.... :cool:

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I don't think of our 42 as a wave crusher...Its more of a wave splitter.

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My old man loses bluff every year at his home on Lake MI from getting pounded by the fll/winter storms, she is a mean biyoch.

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When suppertime came, the old cook came on deck sayin.
Fellas, its too rough to feed ya.
At seven p.m. a main hatchway caved in, he said
Fellas, its been good tknow ya
The captain wired in he had water comin in
And the good ship and crew was in peril.
And later that night when his lights went outta sight
Came the wreck of the edmund fitzgerald.

Does any one know where the love of God goes
When the waves turn the minutes to hours?

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You wouldn't happen to have the other 58 verses, would you?

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What is "we parked a 38' F******?

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The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they called "Gitche Gumee."
The lake, it is said, never gives up her dead
when the skies of November turn gloomy.
With a load of iron ore twenty-six thousand tons more
than the Edmund Fitzgerald weighed empty,
that good ship and true was a bone to be chewed
when the "Gales of November" came early.

The ship was the pride of the American side
coming back from some mill in Wisconsin.
As the big freighters go, it was bigger than most
with a crew and good captain well seasoned,
concluding some terms with a couple of steel firms
when they left fully loaded for Cleveland.
And later that night when the ship's bell rang,
could it be the north wind they'd been feelin'?

The wind in the wires made a tattle-tale sound
and a wave broke over the railing.
And ev'ry man knew, as the captain did too
'twas the witch of November come stealin'.
The dawn came late and the breakfast had to wait
when the Gales of November came slashin'.
When afternoon came it was freezin' rain
in the face of a hurricane west wind.

When suppertime came the old cook came on deck sayin'.
"Fellas, it's too rough t'feed ya."
At seven P.M. a main hatchway caved in; he said,
"Fellas, it's bin good t'know ya!"
The captain wired in he had water comin' in
and the good ship and crew was in peril.
And later that night when 'is lights went outta sight
came the wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald.

Does any one know where the love of God goes
when the waves turn the minutes to hours?
The searchers all say they'd have made Whitefish Bay
if they'd put fifteen more miles behind 'er.
They might have split up or they might have capsized;
they may have broke deep and took water.
And all that remains is the faces and the names
of the wives and the sons and the daughters.

Lake Huron rolls, Superior sings
in the rooms of her ice-water mansion.
Old Michigan steams like a young man's dreams;
the islands and bays are for sportsmen.
And farther below Lake Ontario
takes in what Lake Erie can send her,
And the iron boats go as the mariners all know
with the Gales of November remembered.

In a musty old hall in Detroit they prayed,
in the "Maritime Sailors' Cathedral."
The church bell chimed 'til it rang twenty-nine times
for each man on the Edmund Fitzgerald.
The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down
of the big lake they call "Gitche Gumee."
"Superior," they said, "never gives up her dead
when the gales of November come early!"

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[QUOTE=Chris]What is "we parked a 38' F******?[/Q


He means he dusted him:D

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Yeah man, I can hardly wait. :rolleyes:

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Other sinkings that Lightfoot didn't sing about

Nov. 11, 1913: eighteen ships were lost killing 254 people.
Nov. 11-13, 1940: 57 men died when three freighters sank in Lake Michigan.
Nov. 18 1958: 33 men died on Lake Michigan with the sinking of the Carl D. Bradley.
Nov. 29, 1966: Daniel J. Morrell sank in Lake Huron killing the 28 crew members.

ed

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Those 38 foot 42 Fountain rule.

Did your wife know you were "on coming" with her boat? :drink:

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A head sea?

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Puddle players always complaining how rough the pond is. :eek: I'll take my Outer Limits tub in the open Atlantic over a Fountain any day. :evilb: :drink: :drink:

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ok...what is "F*******"?

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sounds like a quart of Finlandia

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Where were all the Fountains at SOTW? :eek:

One good thing I can say about the fountain is they run good as long as you're on top of it. If you're not running hard/fast they'll beat ya up pretty good. I learned this after countless hours on a 42 with tripples.

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My Water is Rougher than Your Water, and My Dad can Beat up Your DAD :mad:

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Formula

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that is good!!! :D :D

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The Gulf of Mexico is not an ocean it is a millpond.I have spent thousands of hours on the gulf and 20 years cruising all over the great lakes and I have never seen anything on the Gulf short of a hurricane that would compare to some of the weather i have seen on the great lakes.I know you have all heard the old story of lake michigan going from dead calm to 12 footers in 30 minutes from some old salt but i have witnessed it and i have never seen that phenonom on the gulf of mexico.I can,t comment on the Alantic or the Pacific but I beleive those our some serious bodies of water also.

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I live and boat, and have raced on both Lake Michigan and the Gulf, and I completely agree.

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popcorns comin

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Popcorn anyone...

Yes, the Great lakes get nasty, and fast. I grew up on Erie, and witnessed some pretty big water, and yes it would kick up in thirty minutes - if you were out, and saw something coming from the North - North East, better be moving quick to get in.
I have some, but not much experience in the Gulf of Mex, but I would imagine it get's just as rough or not rougher (depending on how far you go out to play), but likely doesn't kick up as quick.
The inland lakes always have the washboard effect - the great lakes have a similar effect, but it's over a wider range.
No experience in the ocean, but from everything I've heard described, it sounds similar to the Gulf.

The Great Lakes are still Offshore in my book.
And as far as "the boring mid-west" - PIB, Key West of the North.
Nuff said.

As far as the Beak running good - experienced driver, good set-up, good read of the waves, sure, good run.
Maybe some of the old tanks are a little more forgiving, or a little more user friendly - causing less work from the captain.
Lighter layups, and exotic hull designs - you have to be a little more careful on how you run - the old heavy wave crushers will run through anything with less effort from the driver.

I can't believe I just threw my hat in this ring....
:D
Go ahead boys...Toe the line... :D

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Forgot this one.
"Your water is more corrosive than my water."

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We smoked a F***tain on the way from Long beach to Newport beach in Norts Formula so I guess we are back to square one :evilb: :evilb:

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fountain,cig or apache. lake michigan is a great place to test your skills. the water always changes.
todd

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Well put my friend! Wait until this years Chi town poker run DVD comes out and watch what it is like running in the lake! I know many of you will be suprised.

My dad was the card boat in Michigan City the first stop of the run. Let me put it like this, my brother 22 years old been on the lake since an infant, " Dad this was the only time I have every been scared with you driving the boat". The boat was a 36' cabin cruiser. It was too rough to anchor and they were behind a break wall.

For the record, less than a 1/3 of the boats made it too the first stop Gatorone in his 47 OL was the first to the stop and a 47' Fountain was number too! Ask them how rough the lake was! :evilb: :drink:

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C'mon ya killing me.

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Amen to that. born and raised here on the great lakes and we have what is commonly called the washing machine chop. you get to a point where you can read sections of the lake and come to know what to expect. but as far as reading the immediate water it gets very difficult. almost impossible to get into any kind of a rhythm for more than a very short time. when it gets ugly it is usually very steep waves that are very close together. our average span here on Erie is only about 26 feet. i've raced in the ocean and raced in the great lakes. gimmie the ocean any day :D :D (oh who the heck am i kid'n . . . l'll race any where any time :cool: )

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Of that 1/3 how many where Fountains I know of 4 total that make the 1st card stop....BZ

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I think four is way low. Lets see what I remember :drink: , I was not on the boat I was in East Chicago with my Checkmate because it was too rough! :evilb:

1. 47 fountain unknown
2. 42 fountain BZ
3. 42 fountain Downtown42
4. 47 fountain Reggie
5. Frankie in one of shogrens boat
6-8,9 the rest of shogrens boats???