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TeamSaris 11-07-2006 03:36 PM

38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
Which one would you guys choose? The TG is a twin Step. :drink:

CigDaze 11-07-2006 03:38 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
Tg

Screw IT 11-07-2006 03:45 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
I have been out in both and there is no comparison. You can see which one I bought. I also owned the 31 Fastech prior to this purchase.

The Fastech also topped out in the mid 70's and the TG is mid 80's.

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 03:50 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
NADA says that an 2002 top gun is $188,000
2002 fastec is 134k
big difference but the TG would have a better qualtiy right?

Wild 11-07-2006 03:55 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
I have been in both, trust me you want the Top Gun

Wild

dykstra 11-07-2006 03:56 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
Tg

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 04:02 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
What year did cig start putting steps in the TG?
Formula was 1997 I belive.

Chris Sunkin 11-07-2006 04:04 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
No one ever came up to me and asked "Is that a Formula boat?"

Cig- quality, holds its value, better performance, hotter looks.

Formula is more of a wife & kids offshore.

ToTheMax 11-07-2006 04:04 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
I love both boats. Pros and cons, as you get with any comparison :D

Cig for performance, helm/cockpit layout, wave crushing capability, legendary reputation (tried tested and true)

Formula for sexy lines, interior layout/liveability, luxury options, "new wave" technology

IMO, either one would make you happy!

Dangerous Dave 11-07-2006 04:07 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
Both are great boats. I was a salesman at a dealership that sold both. Both were Factory 2 national champions. Very different ride in big water. Both great but different. The formula has a lot more "wife" features like a pump out head, adjustable footrests, glove box with a mirror inside. The Cigarette is more of the pureist offshore boat. I would take the Cig but my wife likes the Formula...thats why I own a Cigarette.

I have never seen any problems with the quality of either, if you hear about more quality issues with formula it's probably because they build a whole lot more boats than Cig.

Dangerous Dave 11-07-2006 04:10 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
Cig experimented with a single step in '99/'00 and put the twin step in full time in 2001.

I don't know how many single steps were built but it was probably only a couple race boats

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 04:30 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
Never ridden in the Cig but ridden in MANY 382's and liked them all. Just looking for a comparison.

lucky strike 11-07-2006 04:40 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
The Cigarette without a doubt.

WildWarrior 11-07-2006 04:42 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
TopGun

yesrej 11-07-2006 04:42 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
i would say cig just on looks and name

bouyhunter 11-07-2006 04:59 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
This sounds like it would be an arguement between me and my wife if we were shopping that range of boat.

For me - Cig, hands down. Offshore legend - need I say more.
For her - Formula. Very high quality, attention to creature comfort, performance boat.

Both are great boats, and I don't think you'd go wrong with either.
It just depends on what you want to do with your boat. And let's face it, anyone buying a go-fast wants to get a little attention from everyone. What kind of attention do you want, and from who?
Race/Poker Run crowd, or Luxury crowd??
IMO, Cig is built to Run big water, and then they make it look and feel nice.
Formula is built to look and feel nice, and then engineered to also run hard.
Can't lose - Just depends what you want.

berns29scarab 11-07-2006 05:13 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
theres an awful lot of variables here...i just bought a 353 fastec, and looked at a 30 Mystique. are you powering them comprably, age etc...$$$ is what pushed me into the Fastec. a 1999 353 vs a 2000 30 Mystique...if money were not an issue i'm all about a 39 Unlimited with 850's and 6's :evilb:

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 05:20 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by berns29scarab
theres an awful lot of variables here...i just bought a 353 fastec, and looked at a 30 Mystique. are you powering them comprably, age etc...$$$ is what pushed me into the Fastec. a 1999 353 vs a 2000 30 Mystique...if money were not an issue i'm all about a 39 Unlimited with 850's and 6's :evilb:

Cant blame you there! :drink: BTW new boat looks great! :cool:

bouyhunter 11-07-2006 05:21 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by berns29scarab
theres an awful lot of variables here...i just bought a 353 fastec, and looked at a 30 Mystique. are you powering them comprably, age etc...$$$ is what pushed me into the Fastec. a 1999 353 vs a 2000 30 Mystique...if money were not an issue i'm all about a 39 Unlimited with 850's and 6's :evilb:

I would have made the same decision if those were the two boats I was shopping.

BTW - Congrats on the 353 - I saw the Pics in the other thread - looks great!

cosmic12 11-07-2006 05:22 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
CIG!!! just look at the helm's. dash on a Formula is and always has been BORING :rolleyes:

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 05:27 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by cosmic12
CIG!!! just look at the helm's. dash on a Formula is and always has been BORING :rolleyes:

But I always found an elaborate dash to be distracting, nice, but distracting.

bouyhunter 11-07-2006 05:29 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by cosmic12
CIG!!! just look at the helm's. dash on a Formula is and always has been BORING :rolleyes:

I've been boatless for four years.
Right about now, the dashboard on a two-tone green metallic Glastron Tri-hull 19' with a clamp on 125 would be fairly exciting for me...

:rolleyes:

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 05:32 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by bouyhunter
I've been boatless for four years.
Right about now, the dashboard on a two-tone green metallic Glastron Tri-hull 19' with a clamp on 125 would be fairly exciting for me...

:rolleyes:

Lmao :drink:

cosmic12 11-07-2006 05:35 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by fast fun 2
But I always found an elaborate dash to be distracting, nice, but distracting.

I'm not real crazy about some of the new ones with all the pods but I just have never been able to get past what Formula does or better yet doesn't do. I'm just old school and like a big guage filled dash and a fairing and not a windshield. but thats just my b.s. like I said OLD SCHOOL :cool:

Jassman 11-07-2006 05:36 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by Dangerous Dave
Cig experimented with a single step in '99/'00 and put the twin step in full time in 2001.

I don't know how many single steps were built but it was probably only a couple race boats



I was one of their experiments in 2000, I believe a total of 6 boats were sold that year. :(

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 05:37 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by cosmic12
I'm not real crazy about some of the new ones with all the pods but I just have never been able to get past what Formula does or better yet doesn't do. I'm just old school and like a big guage filled dash and a fairing and not a windshield. but thats just my b.s. like I said OLD SCHOOL :cool:

I definitly see your point.

AIR TIME 11-07-2006 05:56 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
cig :D

lucky strike 11-07-2006 06:00 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
A cig is hand layed boat
A Fastec is a choppergun boat

Marginmn 11-07-2006 06:01 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by Jassman
I was one of their experiments in 2000, I believe a total of 6 boats were sold that year. :(

I take it that you were less than happy with the boat? Did they do the right thing by you?

dreamer 11-07-2006 06:07 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by lucky strike
A cig is hand layed boat
A Fastec is a choppergun boat


really?

didnt know that they still chopper gunned em....

satisfactionII 11-07-2006 06:33 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by fast fun 2
Which one would you guys choose? The TG is a twin Step. :drink:

I'd buy the Gun under almost any circumstances. :D

I just checked my wallet and I still have my Man card so I don't buy a boat for wife features, I buy a boat for Man features. :evilb: :evilb:

plumbers crack 11-07-2006 06:36 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by lucky strike
A cig is hand layed boat
A Fastec is a choppergun boat

Hey Easy there little fella,I resemble that remark,Chopper gun.At least formula puts full interiors in there boats.Ohh!

cosmic12 11-07-2006 06:49 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by lucky strike
A cig is hand layed boat
A Fastec is a choppergun boat

SAY IT AIN'T SOOOOO :eek:

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 06:51 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by satisfactionII
I'd buy the Gun under almost any circumstances. :D

I just checked my wallet and I still have my Man card so I don't buy a boat for wife features, I buy a boat for Man features. :evilb: :evilb:

LOL

rainmn 11-07-2006 06:55 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
As far back as I can remember, I've said that someday I'll own a Cigarette. For that reason alone I'd by the Gun - just to cross one more thing off my list. :D

ToTheMax 11-07-2006 07:39 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by lucky strike
A cig is hand layed boat
A Fastec is a choppergun boat

I didn't know that.

I agree with the above posts (Cosmic12) that the Formula dash needs work. Even some past boat tests have said its too simple. Maybe they rely too much on SmartCraft, being that the majority of their installations are Mercury, to give important readouts, but I like having gauges out there to glance at without pushing little buttons at speed

But I see the point about having a limit with the gauges, being that the wraparound windshield is still standard ( which looks nice when its in chrome though!)

Rippem 11-07-2006 07:44 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by lucky strike
A Fastec is a choppergun boat



I guess all the pics available of hulls being hand-laid and rolled in Decatur were staged? :rolleyes:

t500hps 11-07-2006 07:46 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
What do you need (OK, want) out of the boat?
I love the lines of the Cig and agree it's a better rough water boat. The lines are classic and the one off paint is awesome.
We overnight often in our boat.....sometimes with 3 kids. Making several hundred mile trips over several days is what we "need" the boat for so Formula won hands down. Still a good quality boat, good resale, and the ride quality is close enough. They are just built for 2 different purposes.

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 07:50 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 

Originally Posted by t500hps
What do you need (OK, want) out of the boat?
I love the lines of the Cig and agree it's a better rough water boat. The lines are classic and the one off paint is awesome.
We overnight often in our boat.....sometimes with 3 kids. Making several hundred mile trips over several days is what we "need" the boat for so Formula won hands down. Still a good quality boat, good resale, and the ride quality is close enough. They are just built for 2 different purposes.

I vote formula, always loved the lines and for 50k less its a deal.

TeamSaris 11-07-2006 07:59 PM

Re: 38 fastec vs. 38TG
 
How does a 38scarab avs stand up to these boats?


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