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2-3-4 inches of ice will snap almost marina area here or most places in the country... they are weaker structures than up north... not weak.

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man that sucks. good luck with the boat :(

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I may be missing the obvious, but why dont you let your boat down into the water and get it out of there ?

Also another probably dumb idea, could you blow the snow off with a leaf blower ?

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[QUOTE=yahoo]I may be missing the obvious, but why dont you let your boat down into the water and get it out of there ?


thats what i was thinking as well, feet might get a little wet getting there, why wait for the boat to get crushed?

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that could be dangerous,,if that is to shift while he was to attempt to move it , eeven on his tippy toes , and it comes down , i don't think it would result in a good out come..

it is a sad sight to see..

hurricanes , snow storms , tornados, fires....some crazy sh!t happening in the world these days...

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If we would lower the lift, the whole dock would go under. The lift is helping to some extent to keep the dock floating. At this point, it is too risky to try to get the boat out. If the dock would go down, whomever was in the boat would be trapped in the boat by the roof of the dock. That wouldn't be good.

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man that sucks,pray for another warm week .

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Lots of real ugly pics. My dock is fairly new and in good shape, and altho is sitting somewhat lower it is still fine. But I have a carport that my son uses to keep his boat in during the winter and it didn't fair as well. Toppled over and has dome some damage to the boat. Of course carport is trash. Here is a pic.

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Me and a neighbor spent 5hrs pushing snow & ice from our dock roofs. The only thing holding the docks from totally going under were our hoists. It's a f*ing mess down here.

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I'ts not the snow that is the problem I have sleet 2or3 in deep on the dock walk way drive way roofs ect it took me two days to dig out. My dock did ok had some drifts about 2ft on it next door the dock went over sideways with the boat still on the lift. Looking out my window I can see three or four docks with damage. :(

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Leaf blower wont work. Way too heavy snow and ice. I don't even think a leaf blower would work on ultra powdery dry snow for removal.

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Where is that first picture from?

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On the 1 new dock at our marina that was still floating but leaning because of the 4-5' snow on the 1 side of the roof, the marina placed salomanders up on top to help melt the snow while the guys were shoveling. The water was just pouring off in the short time we were there.
They did have to work evenly the full width so as not to cause the roof to buckle from clearing 1 section at a time if they were to do so.

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fstboater
Any chance you can see E dock/cruiser dock at Glencove Yacht Club? They're telling me only damage on the channel end of that dock, so I might be ok. So I'm just hoping it doesn't go down before it melts.
Gary

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That was the Moorings Yacht Club.

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Which Glencove is that??? 1mm, 3mm or 21mm???????

3mm is a total loss on all docks
1mm docks all saved
21mm many docks in bad shape

This info is from a Glencove salesman posted on MWBP.

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Link sent by Glencove saleSman

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...0Storm%202006/

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LOTO pictures today 12-3-06

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I would assume your lift has stops at the full up. If your lift only has pivets points, the lift is not helping the dock at all. If you have, you might try chaining the lift to the dock (from a second boat if dock shifting is an issue) and then blowing the lift tanks.

Truely a sad situation, never the less. :( Good luck to all you LOTO guys.

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It is helping if the walkway is under water, like a lot of these docks are. The pivot point is generally near water level, on most docks that is a couple feet below the walkway.

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Agreed, I was referring to the pivet points of the lift. Hydrohoist's UL model, I believe their most commen lift has no full up position - it only pivets. Boatfloater brand does have a full up position and would help the dock stay afloat.

Just a suggestion if someone here is looking for ideas.

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The docks that the roof broke apart look so much better than the ones where the roof stayed intact and took everything down with/under it........... :(

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I'm at the 21mm. Looks like my dock survived.
There's still a lot of ice/snow on it, so just hoping for warm weather before more snow or wind.

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The term you are looking for is "rough water stops". They limit the lift from going up too far. As you pump your lift up, the pivot arm pushes against the stop and doesn't allow the lift to bob up and down in rough water. Unfortunately, a majority of the HOA's at LOTO that have the large dock systems restrict the use of "rough water stops" as it transfers some of the stress from the lift to the dock in rough water situations. They would rather your lift float up and down freely.

Chad

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If I was into fiberglass, gel, and paint work, I would be moving pronto. There is enough work there for two full years.

On a "glass half full" note, with some of these big cruisers inoperable next season, perhaps the lake will be a bit calmer.

Its painful to see all of that damage and destruction to the boats we are so passionate about. I hope our OSO members are affected as gently as possible.

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:(

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Looks like the used boat market will get even more flooded :( A survey will be more important now than ever :eek:

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That's what I was thinking.

Good luck to all you down there. Be safe. Don't risk your life to save your boat!

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Pics of the marina by me. Bad news. Good news is that they got some big boats out of it before it collapsed.

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the moorings were denied their insurance claim because their insurance co. warned and told them last year to reinforce their standards, cross bracing and to steepen their roof pitches or they will not be covered, wonder how many claims will be denied for whatever reasons.

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What's keeping them down? The floats should have popped it back up as soon as enough of the weight had melted. Doesn't aapear that the frame work is crumpled on these last pics, just sunk.

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Do people in general leave their boats on the slips year round or take them out for the winter?
Awful damage...... :(

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wow :eek:

on the local news tonight they qouted Port Arrowhead saying they estimated 4 million in damage. that must be just for the docks.....

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Here is a link to photos including aerials that were sent to me:
http://dealerimpact.com/ozarks/

Credit should be given to Brian Cox for putting this together.

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Many insurance companies don't include ice and snow on the standard dock policy. Kind of like sewer backup or earthquake coverage on a homeowners. You have to buy the snow and ice as a separate coverage, and it allows decisions like you cited, the insurance company can decide to deny that coverage if they feel you need your structure to be more stout to handle ice and snow, yet still cover you for other perils.

I wonder how many condos, marinas and personal docks do not have their policies endorsed with the extra coverage.

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Most boats including mine usually sit on the lift in the water all year. The lake rarely freezes and if it does it is only for a few days and ice is way to thin to walk on. My dock did not get damaged but so many did. It is going to take years to recover from all the damage and get the docks taken out and replaced. :(

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Somebody get that sweet ride out of Dock #5 in those aerials..... :eek: :(

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We started getting calls to go ck on boats days ago we put the work boat in the water today. As some of the docks have started to come back up and the ones the dock went under some were ok the ones where the roof came broken arches windshields ect. I think Glencove at the 1MM is ok went around to glencove at the 21 it is pretty much intact. I look at a lot of the pictures of docks that went down or the roof caved in and think boy we service a boat in that dock.I work at Bergers if you want us to ck on your boat give us a call it will get pretty busy quick. Good luck to everyone with a boat down here!

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Shane,
I went by your home today and from what I could see from the road your dock looked fine--wasn't sure if it was the right house or not so I didn't walk down to the dock. Did you buy your home from the Zummallen's ? If so I know the house and will walk down to your dock tomorrow--pretty sure it is OK though cause I was down by Randy Kent's island the other day looking back with binoculars and saw your dock and looked fine from there.

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I just don't get this whole problem. This isn't some 3rd world country or something (well....it is LOTO). Are there no building codes in LOTO? I'm shocked that this just seems "normal" to happen if it snows too much. I don't think ANY of this should happen! IT IS A DEFECT SOMEWHERE!