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427eliminator 12-11-2006 04:05 PM

Fastest Non Step V-Hull
 
I am trying to find out what were some of the fastest V-Hulls with straight non-step bottoms. Anyone know the makes and speeds????????

36spectre 12-11-2006 04:20 PM

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Sutphen

bonecrusher 12-11-2006 04:38 PM

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Velocity and Sunsation are two too look at.

thisistank 12-11-2006 04:41 PM

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Paul....Stop it!

It's going to be your boat when you're done!!

See you on Saturday with that bad boy :eek:

Boomer 880 12-11-2006 04:52 PM

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Didn't a Howard 25 or 28 run 110+ in one of the magazines?

Steamin Rice 12-11-2006 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Boomer 880
Didn't a Howard 25 or 28 run 110+ in one of the magazines?


Yes, but those are step bottom boats.... :drink:

TeamSaris 12-11-2006 05:04 PM

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Sunsations are step boats.
Verlocity or Tuff

AIR TIME 12-11-2006 05:05 PM

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Sutphen 34 Race Boat Team Outrageous :d :d :d From Mass.

BY U BOY 12-11-2006 05:55 PM

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Velocity
Waht About A Active Thunder?

Velocity Tom 12-11-2006 06:46 PM

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Power for power a velocity any day!

ActiveThunder 12-11-2006 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BY U BOY
Velocity
Waht About A Active Thunder?

Good question.

32 V with 500 EFIs 88mph.

37 V with 500 EFIs 81mph.

Not potatoe chips. Just good ol' fashion offshore boats.

Jupiter Sunsation 12-11-2006 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by fast fun 2
Sunsations are step boats.
Verlocity or Tuff


The Dominator hull is not a full step, it only runs through the 1st strake (maybe 15-18 inches). The SS hull was a true twin step hull. The Dominator hull is also a padded hull which will give you a faster ride.

GLH 12-11-2006 08:07 PM

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If you put enough humffff anything can go pretty fast...

Reed Jensen 12-11-2006 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GLH
If you put enough humffff anything can go pretty fast...

Just as Carrol Shelby used to say, " Aerodynamics is just a poor excuse for not enough horse-power."... :D Then he went to LeMans and found out the Cobras wouldn't go past 150 until they built a coupe and streamlined it. :cool:

Steet 12-11-2006 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ActiveThunder
Good question.

32 V with 500 EFIs 88mph.

37 V with 500 EFIs 81mph.

Not potatoe chips. Just good ol' fashion offshore boats.

39 Velocity with 500 EFI's 87mph
39 Velocity with 496 HO's 80 mph
39 Velocity with 700's 114+ mph

Solid offshore boats

runafever 12-11-2006 08:46 PM

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How about the new Baja 35 poker run edition. 87mph w 525s no steps. Thats haulin the mail if we are talking about new technology.

thisistank 12-11-2006 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Miklos
Official fastest would be Gentry Scarab for a straight V
Fountain for a non stepped paded bottom
Steve

What's the speed? Paul may beat that in almost the same boat :eek: :drink:

Chris Sunkin 12-11-2006 09:59 PM

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With equal power, length & weight, nothing is going to be faster than the Velocity. That pad bottom ain't for amateurs though.

Outdrive1 12-11-2006 11:21 PM

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This should be on that list.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-12881.html

Back4More 12-12-2006 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Miklos
Official fastest would be Gentry Scarab for a straight V
Fountain for a non stepped paded bottom
Steve

I still don't know what a padded Fountain bottom looks like?
My 42 non step goes down to a V from bow to stern.
Explain what I can't find.
Thanks,
Mark

Downtown42 12-12-2006 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by GLH
If you put enough humffff anything can go pretty fast...

They both have to be working though :evilb: :D

Shore Thing 12-12-2006 08:11 AM

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I have to say Velocity.

I'm biased though :D

Also, probably one of the most fun boats to drive.

cosmic12 12-12-2006 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Steet
39 Velocity with 500 EFI's 87mph
39 Velocity with 496 HO's 80 mph
39 Velocity with 700's 114+ mph

Solid offshore boats

Velocity's are pad bottoms and they do get lite. I believe you were comparing them to the Active Thunders that are true 24 degree deep V's and that was the question that was asked. As said earlier enough H.P. will make anything fast :rolleyes:

ziemer 12-12-2006 08:39 AM

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From the Velocity website:

"In 1981, two very significant events in Steve’s life occurred and the history of offshore boating was changed forever. In that year, Steve and Gene were the first men to break the 100 mph barrier in a V-bottom boat at the annual kilo trials with a 30-foot Velocity."

With all things equal, hp, weight, etc. the pad-V bottom will always be faster than a straigt V.

vtec 12-12-2006 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Back4More
I still don't know what a padded Fountain bottom looks like?
My 42 non step goes down to a V from bow to stern.
Explain what I can't find.
Thanks,
Mark

In the rear of your boat at the centerline(keel) there is a 12-14 inch wide "pushdown area" kinda lika a strake but wider. Often this "pad" isn't a 24 degree angle - it's less. In theory, a flat bottom would be the fastestest- but the ride would be rough. The traditional "offshore" bottom angle (in the rear view -measured from a horiziontal flat) is 24 degrees. Sonic and Sutphen are sharper at 25 or 26 degrees. I think Fountains are 22 degrees - but the pad would be less - let's say 15 degrees from horizontal. Some boats have a small 0 degree flat that terminates at about 25 percent of the hull length. In the top view these look like a triangle , with the point "pointing" to the bow, and thus the name "delta pad". For example the 24 Baja has this delta pad that is totally horizontal in the rear view.

Most "pads" blend in with the rest of the bottom as they approach the bow, and are not visable from a front view.

vtec 12-12-2006 09:04 AM

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And I'm GUESSING that the Velocity or Older Non Step Fountains would be the "fastest" non step hull - because they are padded.

And....fastest means straight line and relatively calm water.

I'd really like to take a Sutphen for a ride as I therize it would be a nice riding and handling hull- same for the sonic's - because of the sharper v and relatively long "flat" on the sutphen.

But I'm only therozing.

AIR TIME 12-12-2006 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vtec
And I'm GUESSING that the Velocity or Older Non Step Fountains would be the "fastest" non step hull - because they are padded.

And....fastest means straight line and relatively calm water.

I'd really like to take a Sutphen for a ride as I therize it would be a nice riding and handling hull- same for the sonic's - because of the sharper v and relatively long "flat" on the sutphen.

But I'm only therozing.

I HAVE BEEN IN A FEW SUTPHENS THEY RIDE THE BEST, THE NEW 32 WITH 825HP SINGLE WILL RUN 85MPH IN ANYTHING, BEEN IN 5 TO 6 OFF THE CAPE DURING THE CANCELED 04 RACE WE ONLY RAN 75 BECAUSE WE HAD A 14YR OLD GIRL ON BOARD AND SUTPHEN 30 HAD HIS KID ON HIS. WE FOR SURE COULD OF GONE WFO WITHOUT THEM. NO BANGING EVERYONE WAS STANDING EXCEPT FOR ME WITH MY BAD KNEES I SAT AND I HAVE A BAD BACK TO IT WAS LIKE RUNNING A CLASS 2 PRO TRUCK WITH 800HPS :D AND THE 35 WITH CUSTOM 725S RUN OVER A 100,THESE BOATS YOU CAN RUN WITH A FINGER TIP NOT LIKE A VILOCITY :rolleyes: BOTH HANDS ON THE WHEEL :p

GLH 12-12-2006 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Downtown42
They both have to be working though :evilb: :D

Runs 50 MPH on one... How does your Fountain do on one mill? :D:D:D

LEOPAJM 12-12-2006 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 427eliminator
I am trying to find out what were some of the fastest V-Hulls with straight non-step bottoms. Anyone know the makes and speeds????????

I don't wanna get into this .... but don't forget WICKEDWON.

In open water of any kind your gonna have a hard time gettin around that one with a straight V bottom "offshore" boat .

OL40SVX 12-12-2006 11:21 AM

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What about Papaches 41 with 1500's. If I remember it was 120+ he said.

StraightJacket 12-12-2006 11:47 AM

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My uncle has a 1990 30' Velocity and it is a good bang for the buck as far as power needed to run fast, But you do need to know how to drive our you'll get hurt very quickly.

Quiet Storm 12-12-2006 12:06 PM

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How much difference in speed does it make if the engines are staggered or side by side?

ziemer 12-12-2006 12:19 PM

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One thing that also helps the Velocity's for add'l speed is the built-in setback into the transom. This helps to raise the X dimension of the drive because the water has a chance to rise back up once it leaves the pad area. This was what Steve coined the "Stepp" transom. (I.e. the pad ends before the transom or the very rear of the boat.) I believe the Fountains were built this way too.


Originally Posted by AIR TIME
THESE BOATS YOU CAN RUN WITH A FINGER TIP NOT LIKE A VILOCITY BOTH HANDS ON THE WHEEL.

What fun is that??? :evilb: :D :D :D

thisistank 12-12-2006 12:34 PM

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I think what Paul is asking is, what's the record for a straight bottomed V. Not which hull is faster. What is the fastest a straight V has run?

(Hint: He want's to beat it. And possibly will :cool: )

Donman 12-12-2006 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AIR TIME
I HAVE BEEN IN A FEW SUTPHENS THEY RIDE THE BEST

I just wish we had water around here that I could really run my boat in. We only have calm lakes.
I did have my boat at LOTO once. That was a true test. On a busy Saturday afternoon, we were running 55-60, jumping cruiser wakes and dodging SeaDoos. What a blast !

Downtown42 12-12-2006 01:01 PM

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Was INXS in 1993 40 Fountain 128mph?

Shore Thing 12-12-2006 01:13 PM

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Fastest I've heard....

22 velocity - 123mph
260 velocity - 111mph
280 velocity - ??
390 velocity - 117mph

If you do a search on here for fastest velocity, you'll find a thread about it. Doesn't mean they are actually the fastest though.

JUPITER PULSARE 12-12-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BY U BOY
Velocity
Waht About A Active Thunder?

The original 31' Active Thunder could be a candidate. The 37's are single Steps.

OldSchool 12-12-2006 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thisistank
I think what Paul is asking is, what's the record for a straight bottomed V. Not which hull is faster. What is the fastest a straight V has run?

(Hint: He want's to beat it. And possibly will :cool: )

What's he got??????

BEAST1 12-12-2006 01:33 PM

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Baja's stock 35 Outlaw with 700's ran 101mph. Could you imagine if it had the light layup like Poker Face.


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