Re: single v bottom with #6
 

Don't forget the #5's..............:D

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I don't have any pics of Bill's boat but I have ridden on it and it is so smooth in every aspect from docking to going on plane, to blistering speed in seconds.

I was amazed to see it sitting in the water the first time cause you would never know it had a #6 hanging off the back.

Very nice Boat and Bill is a super nice Gentleman !

Cougarman

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Back around '99, didn't Tomlinsin or someone at TNT have a 26' Velocity with big power and a #6?

G

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We see him at hardy pond every year,Smitty

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List on the konrad ace system is 28,000$( which is the complete drive,box,transmisssion,steering etc to go in place of a bravo),Smitty

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Dan vining from Mi ran 109 at loto shootout in 2005 in his 25 ft baja. He has a steve morris blower motor making 1100-1300 hp (depending on fuel and boost). He runs a modidfied bravo with max machine worx parts assembled by **** tryce/aka mr gadgets. He claims to run 115-119 at home on hardy pond,Smitty

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He also raced Check300 this year on Hardy Dam,
Check300 walked away from Dan's Baja :drink:

Dan was baffled as they talked afterwards. :D Don't get me wrong Dan has a wicked machine, just two different animals in the way the run and accelerate.

Cougarman

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god that is pucking flying in a single engine boat......Where is this hardy pond sounds like a cool place.....

whats up cougar man hows the project coming

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I thought Dans was a 24 outlaw ?

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Here is a link for Hardy Dam it's about 18 miles long if memory serves me.

http://www.multimap.com/map/browse.c...=100000&icon=x


Cougar is comming real good, can't wait !!!

Cougarman

Re: single v bottom with #6
 

I believe you are right !!:D


Cougarman

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Cougarman, do you have any pics of Check300's Testiclces.How do they fit under the dash?:eek: :eek: :evilb:

Re: single v bottom with #6
 

JCPerf,

As you see in the Photo's articfriends posted it is a nice clean package. The exhaust is under the water and is super quite and all white looks like a super stocker. Comming up to the dock it idles like 800 or less the boat is unreal.

When we went for a ride and he punched it we were at speed so quick it was unreal. Almost hard to get the sensation of how fast you were going cause it happens so quick and yet the boat is so stable and handles like it's on rails.

He has 10 years on the engine if memory serves me and it hasn't been bored. Bill is very very safty concerened in all aspects, could feel safer or more comfortable.

Cougarman

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wow..... amazing.:cool: :eek: has it been in any type of bigger water?

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I believe lake Michigan but I'm not sure how much time.

Also when he built the boat he told Checkmate right from the start what his plans were with the boat. So I'm not sure what Checkmate did with the build of the boat, but they new the direction it was headed since day 1.

I remember Bill mentioning I believe an annual poker run of some sort ( I think geared around Checkmates) that was in Ohio. Guess you know who lead the pack, but the president
of checkmate was there etc and were all very impressed with the boat. So that most likely would have been Lake Erie.

And it seems I've heard mention before of him running in 4 footers plus at some respectable speeds. That #6 really does some great things for that boat !!


I feel like I'm stealing Bill's thunder, Wish he would chime in at some point.


Cougarman

Re: single v bottom with #6
 

I think TNT had a 28 Pantera with a #6 and Big power

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probably not this year but next I am going to try a season or two with absolute MONSTER power....

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Thanks offshoresteve

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Sweet:D :cool: :cool: :cool:

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Go for it Tomcei!!!Throw the 6 on it:D :cool:

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has anyone put a 6 on a 27 Kryp or a 30 Activator?

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Bingo 30 Activator shortly:cool:

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Now thats hot rodding!!!:cool:

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Sweet:cool: :cool:

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That's the problem with all you gear heads, you can't just enjoy a nice relaxing boat ride. Alway upgrade, always faster...what's your problem? :rolleyes:

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4 footers +? ... I hope he chimes in soon.... this is getting crazy

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Wonder how one would work on my 20 cig? :D

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Dan switched to some kind of fuel injection and spent all summer pizzing around trying to get it to run right,not sure if he ever got it sorted outed,I was there when they raced but didn't get to see it. The pic I took was from the same weekend,Smitty

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Its not a outlaw,its a hammer with I think 21 degree deadrise,Smitty

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I was racing someone a few years ago when my boat ran 83-85 instead of its current speed and he came out of nowhere a BUZZED me and the other guy I was racing,if I remember right he let off after passing us and you could here the wastegates opening,it was awesome,Smitty

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Articfriends,

I work with Dan's cousin so it's kinda fun cause I get to hear it from both parties. Yes you are right Dan did a lot of tweaking including a monster inner-cooler. Steve Morrison was hoping to have him ready for the shoot out as well as a representitive for what Steve's engine shop can do.
When they dynoed they made so much power it broke the braket's right off the front of the engine that holds all the pulleys etc. So after that They had to make a big billet plate to hold every thing and keep it stable and strong. Trust me it was running right when it left Steve's shop. :D
Another fella I work with runs Twin 700's from Steve's shop and I will say they run alot stronger than I expected too.

Anyway's Dan had all this work done already when he had his encounter with Bill / Check300. :D :drink:

I later talked with Bill and you know the rest, Bill is a stand up guy and as honest as they get.


Cougarman

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:eek:

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I do want to, but I'm afraid of screwing up the boat:(

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I've personally tested the Konrad Ace drive at 126.0 GPS. We were very pleased to see prop slip at 8.2% at that speed. The boat is a 34 DCB with 800's Not even a hint of blow out. Gearcase housing diameter is 4.89" Yes, the Konrad does require a remote water pick-up.

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those are typically good cat slip numbers. any figures/experience on 100+ MPH V'bottom?

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I'm told by a well known prop specialist that a similarly set up 34 DCB typically runs 12-14% slip.

Fionn Oniel ( OSO "Lofty") is running a little over 100 with his 29 Fountain. Hopefully he'll chime in here and share info.

Kurt

Re: single v bottom with #6
 

Maybe I should put that comment into context, From my own insight and listening to Check300's adventures along with his boating partner Tom Earhart.


I would gather Bill and Tom enjoy flat water per say the best, reason being is cause that's typically where the Hotrods hang out, STV's , V-drive's, Pickle Forks, and Cats.


So they seem to frequent Hardy Dam, Gun Lake, Alumn Creek etc. which allows them plenty of Hot rods to play with.


Where the 4 footer plus comment came from is:

Seems at one point I was talking with Bill and asked him how the boat handles etc. with that big of a drive hanging on there. To which he replied how great it is and he could run at (such and such) speed in what I thought was 4 footers and Tom Earhart couldn't even begin to run with him. I believe this was on Lake Michigan and granted they are two totally different boats. Tom Earhart runs a 24' Eliminator with the same engine and a B-Max drive. Anyways when this was shared, Tom agreed that #6 greatly benefits Bills boat and allows him to stay hooked up and very controlled.

So I hardly think that they go wave crushing, or look to go wave crushing. But the boat has been in some bigger water and I was told it does great.

Bill is not careless or wreak less, he seems to just enjoy being out there and having
fun.


Cougarman

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I don't think you would Screw up the boat.

1) What are your afraid of screwing up?

2) How much power do you realisticly want to run?

If your at 800 hp stick with the konrad, if your going to exceed that than you might want to start thinking about the
#6.

I realize plenty of people are shoving more (HP) than that into bravo's and Konrads but you will be paying the piper eventually. And I think you can find enough Bravo clientle on here that could have paid far a #6 from all there replacements or repairs of the bravo's.

Me personally if I had to choose between a #6 and a Konrad I would go with a used #6 wetsump and Transome assembly.
Simply by the time ya price it all out, your at the same money
as a new Konrad.

Yes your props my be a bit more, but you finally have piece of mind that you won't break it.

Don't get me wrong I think Konrad makes a great product and I'm glad they do cause I feel it pushes Mercury to improve there product which we all benifit from.

Cougarman

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Cougarman, I am concerned with negatively effecting the handling. Also I would hate to cut up the transom and then have to try and"go back" to the bravo set up due to lack of judgement.
I would like to run 800+hp but I'm figuring on always wanting to up the pwr in the future:cool:
I would take comfort in knowing the drive line is "bullet proof"
I'm going to call TNT today. Where are they located?
Tom

Re: single v bottom with #6
 

Florida Ask for Johnny for rigging
Ask for Matt in the drive shop if ya need mechanical info.

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