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Interesting. Did you try a 5 blade? How high did you start and where did you end up with what speed and slip? |
We started out 3" above the bottom. The boat bow steered. I didn't try a 5 blade because more blades causes more transom lift and that was already the issue. The top speed was 120 with 16% slip.
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How deep did you end up with the 4 blade? We’re you able to get good bow lift with the 4 blade? |
Originally Posted by IGetWet
(Post 4614572)
How deep did you end up with the 4 blade? We’re you able to get good bow lift with the 4 blade? |
Originally Posted by mickeymcclgn
(Post 4614487)
i think like said by others you’d need big HP to make up the difference for the added hassle. It would be a good place to start but I would bet you could maybe lower the drive some. Check 300s old checkmate was a 6 I believe 3 below the bottom. My boat however did not like the drive that low. Been there and was disappointed. The more I raised the drive the better the boat handled and the faster it went. The one starts above and ends below bottom. The other starts below and ends above. Think it's difficult to say what's best for me now. 😂 |
Originally Posted by Chris12
(Post 4614716)
A 1100-1200 HP engine and the Velvet 72L-HP is waiting in my workshop.
The one starts above and ends below bottom. The other starts below and ends above. Think it's difficult to say what's best for me now. 😂 |
Originally Posted by IGetWet
(Post 4614718)
It’s easier to come down than go up. Not sure what the biggest spacer is for the #6, 2”? |
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...73a422cb4d.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ce2e981b4a.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...7b5d32c06b.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b38c6feb47.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0ae2f32596.jpg We re-rigged this Squadron last year. Runs so nice we have another client buying a 27 so we can do the same setup. 1200EFI SSM6 100+ through anything |
Originally Posted by TeamSaris
(Post 4614746)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...73a422cb4d.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ce2e981b4a.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...7b5d32c06b.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b38c6feb47.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0ae2f32596.jpg We re-rigged this Squadron last year. Runs so nice we have another client buying a 27 so we can do the same setup. 1200EFI SSM6 100+ through anything |
TeamSaris How much below or above bottom
is the shaft ? |
Originally Posted by Chris12
(Post 4614825)
TeamSaris How much below or above bottom
is the shaft ? |
Very nice setup!!
I want to realize a similar project now. Would say it is above bottom or?! Wet sump upper and dry sump lower? What gear is in the drive? |
Wow, that is amazing |
Originally Posted by TeamSaris
(Post 4614859)
Honestly it's as high as we can get it and it's still a little too low. Other than that, not totally sure.
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Originally Posted by IGetWet
(Post 4615040)
Very cool. Looks like it’s got to be pretty close to the bottom, maybe a couple inches under. How’s it run with the 4 blade, bow lift etc...? |
Bringing this one back just because it’s an interesting read. 2005 25 Outlaw 509ci Whipple, was a 525efi but bored to 4.5” and a couple other changes. Boost pretty low at 6psi. Haven’t had the motor dynoed but I was told when I bought the motor 775hp.
Current drive setup now is a scx4 #6 shaft .25” below the pad, 12” extension box. Runs better than it did with the scx 2.25” below. More torque steer that I’ll have to address but actually have better trim response. I’ve ran a Maximus, 5 speed, 4 blade cleaver, 5 blade round ear cleaver, and a 4 speed. Best prop so far is the 17” diameter 5 blade round ear cleaver. 5 blade bravo style props are actually about the same slip as the 17” cleaver. The issue I have now is as I trim the slip increases negating any speed increase, rpms climb but that’s because of more slip. Same speed if the trim is in all the way crushing the waves with the front or if it’s riding on the top. Might have to try a spacer or modifying more props... One thing that gets me is how do the bravo style 5 blades hook up as well as a 5 blade cleaver with cup added in the rounded ears? Lots of testing and tuning trying to do something like this. https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d2d8b6ef0.jpeg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...5b7300b80.jpeg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a2a074aa6.jpeg https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d8d9ca28b.jpeg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...985572e8c.jpeg |
Originally Posted by IGetWet
(Post 4648119)
Bringing this one back just because it’s an interesting read. 2005 25 Outlaw 509ci Whipple, was a 525efi but bored to 4.5” and a couple other changes. Boost pretty low at 6psi. Haven’t had the motor dynoed but I was told when I bought the motor 775hp.
Current drive setup now is a scx4 #6 shaft .25” below the pad, 12” extension box. Runs better than it did with the scx 2.25” below. More torque steer that I’ll have to address but actually have better trim response. I’ve ran a Maximus, 5 speed, 4 blade cleaver, 5 blade round ear cleaver, and a 4 speed. Best prop so far is the 17” diameter 5 blade round ear cleaver. 5 blade bravo style props are actually about the same slip as the 17” cleaver. The issue I have now is as I trim the slip increases negating any speed increase, rpms climb but that’s because of more slip. Same speed if the trim is in all the way crushing the waves with the front or if it’s riding on the top. Might have to try a spacer or modifying more props... One thing that gets me is how do the bravo style 5 blades hook up as well as a 5 blade cleaver with cup added in the rounded ears? Lots of testing and tuning trying to do something like this. |
Originally Posted by TxHawk
(Post 4648362)
What RPM and how fast? Its not 100% of the time, but a lot of the fast single Vee's run a LH prop.
What benefit does a left hand prop have? I know the single fountains like left hand rotation. I ran a left hand prop a couple years ago just because I couldnt find a RH 26 bravo. Boat leaned to starboard pretty bad. |
Depends on the pad design of the hull......some hulls have the pad offset of the center-line to help counteract prop torque on single engine boats.
On a hull without a pad (like your Baja) I would believe a right hand rotation prop would be more advantageous since it should help counteract some engine torque (different directions). Having said that I thinks a bravo is slightly stronger/more durable in one direction vs. the other...but dont remember which (likely when the bottom of the upper gears is engaged)............so that may influence single engine boat prop rotation selection as well. |
The 25 Outlaw has a pad and a small notch, pretty sure it’s not offset. I believe the bottom gear is the forward gear in RH rotation.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d1384fdf4.jpeg |
Yup the lower of the two upper gears is the forward gear on a Bravo for RH rotation.
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I stand corrected....I thought I remembered them (bajas) being sans pad.
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I think Nordic had either a 6 or and 8 on their 21 foot ski competition boat. I saw some test video of it hauling the mail a little while back.
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