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tomcei

01-01-2007 04:06 PM

single v bottom with #6

What is the smallest single engine v bottom you have seen with a #6 on the back? 27? 28? 30?

It seems that there are quite a few after 32 feet.

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 04:08 PM

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I have seen two #6s on a 29 Scarab.

Coolerman

01-01-2007 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tomcei (Post 1979080)

What is the smallest single engine v bottom you have seen with a #6 on the back? 27? 28? 30?

It seems that there are quite a few after 32 feet.

There is a guy on this board with a 30' checkmate I believe, has a turbo motor in it and runs 115mph+ with it.

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 04:24 PM

Re: single v bottom with #6

What size Activator is Masher44's? I think that has a 6

TUFFboat

01-01-2007 04:29 PM

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I would be very interested in hearing how a small boat handled with a #6 compared to a bravo style out drive.
I have heard of a few guys going with BIG hp 1000-1100hp on small light boats (single vee) but I can't figure out how you would make it last without the big drive on it. The big #6 weighs like 500lbs and consumes hp just to run it.
So, has anyone got this handled?

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 04:32 PM

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I would run a Konrad before a 6 if possible. Konrad said if they were not being conservative they would rate it at 1000HP.:cool:

JCPERF

01-01-2007 04:39 PM

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My boat and Masher's have #6s on the back.The problem isnt so much the HP drain, its the CG of the boat.When you go from the Bravo to the #6 it adds 320 lbs. to the back of the boat.The center of gravity now is much further back than with the Bravo.The handling characteristics might be jeopardized.

tomcei

01-01-2007 04:40 PM

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there arn't many used Konrads to pick up but there are a few #6
I'm mostly concerned with the weight and how it would effect a single boat around 27-30 weight approx 5800lbs formaly a bravo

tomcei

01-01-2007 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JCPERF (Post 1979126)

It would then seem best to move the engine foward wouldn't it?

McGary911

01-01-2007 04:44 PM

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Wasn't there a guy at one of the radar runs a year or 2 back with a 25' Baja with 1000+ and a 6? I'll see if I can find the thread.....

JCPERF

01-01-2007 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tomcei (Post 1979136)

It would then seem best to move the engine foward wouldn't it?

When you add the #6 you have to add a transmission or in my case a crashbox so the engine will have to be moved 9 to 11 inches depending on what you use.My 32's CG was forward and worked good in the 6 conversion being my optimum CG was better with the 6.A 28 foot boat might not work as good.

tomcei

01-01-2007 04:54 PM

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that's what worries me.the cg
This would definatly rule out the trans in an extension box
JC what's you boat weight?? full cabin??

JCPERF

01-01-2007 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tomcei (Post 1979155)

that's what worries me.the cg
This would definatly rule out the trans in an extension box
JC what's you boat weight?? full cabin??

I have no cabin up front.The boat probably weighs about 5300 lbs. now with the 6.

tomcei

01-01-2007 04:59 PM

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My pantera 28 has a full cabin and I think it is a little heaver. Do you think that would favor me for this application

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 04:59 PM

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How fast have you that that boat up to JC?

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tomcei (Post 1979162)

My pantera 28 has a full cabin and I think it is a little heaver. Do you think that would favor me for this application

more weight up front would help yes.

JCPERF

01-01-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 1979163)

How fast have you that that boat up to JC?

115 with about 1100HP.It dynoed at 1200HP.Will push it more this year.:cool:

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 05:05 PM

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Holy Chit!!:drink: :cool:

JCPERF

01-01-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tomcei (Post 1979162)

My pantera 28 has a full cabin and I think it is a little heaver. Do you think that would favor me for this application

Probably.

tblrklakemo

01-01-2007 05:13 PM

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Why not an arneson?

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 05:15 PM

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They dont work the best on a single engine vee

TUFFboat

01-01-2007 05:30 PM

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CJ... How does the boat come on plane with the 6 compared to other, how high is the X. Does it walk sideways under acceleration?

Thanks

JCPERF

01-01-2007 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TUFFboat (Post 1979228)

CJ... How does the boat come on plane with the 6 compared to other, how high is the X. Does it walk sideways under acceleration?

Thanks

The boat goes right on plane.The nose is straight up and then it pops level.I have the prop shaft at 11/2 inches below the back of the v.Keep in mind for every 10 inches the prop shaft is moved back go up 1 inch in prop shaft height.

TUFFboat

01-01-2007 05:35 PM

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With the Konrad; Does anyone know how fast they have run that gearcase profile? Is there any blowout issues at higher speeds with it? What is the diameter of the gear housing? Is it remote water intake?

Just wondering.

TUFFboat

01-01-2007 05:39 PM

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Thanks JC, and does it crab at all? Or is it a small diameter prop?

JCPERF

01-01-2007 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TUFFboat (Post 1979250)

Thanks JC, and does it crab at all? Or is it a small diameter prop?

It doesnt crab at all.I started with a 17 inch diameter and went down to a 16.It will probably like a little less diameter.

TUFFboat

01-01-2007 05:50 PM

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Thanks again JC.
If you don't mine I have another for you...
As a motor guy, what do you feel is is the most reasonable hp you would put tp a Bravo style drive? This would be a single engine Vee.

JCPERF

01-01-2007 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TUFFboat (Post 1979271)

Thanks again JC.
If you don't mine I have another for you...
As a motor guy, what do you feel is is the most reasonable hp you would put tp a Bravo style drive? This would be a single engine Vee.

850HP on a step bottom boat
750HP on a non step

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 05:52 PM

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700 after that you really need to be carefull with an XR

Tapa11

01-01-2007 06:04 PM

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Would you feel alright with a catamaran boat 36' with 900 hp each side and Konrad's on it doing 150 mph?

p.s. I really have a problem with Mercury"s pricing on a no. 6.

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 06:07 PM

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I would

Tapa11

01-01-2007 06:12 PM

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I'm getting ready to build a new boat and what kind of pricing does the complete Konrad setup w/box cost?

Tapa11

01-01-2007 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapa11 (Post 1979297)

Would you feel alright with a catamaran boat 36' with 900 hp each side and Konrad's on it doing 150 mph?

p.s. I really have a problem with Mercury"s pricing on a no. 6.

JCPERF what do you think of this setup? Then is the price difference worth going away from 6's?

Buddy OO

01-01-2007 06:41 PM

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konrads will be about 18k each, wow what cat are you buying 150mph with 900's, don't know asny 36's that will hit that speed with that power.

Tapa11

01-01-2007 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by wiggler4490 (Post 1979346)

konrads will be about 18k each, wow what cat are you buying 150mph with 900's, don't know asny 36's that will hit that speed with that power.

I guess that was a figure of speech in some degree. I'm just thinking would a 150 mph cat, 32 to 40 feet long, be comfortable with Konrad's, and would it perform, as good or better than the 6's?

TeamSaris

01-01-2007 07:08 PM

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As good at least. If you need any more help we are a dealer so give us a ring.

9 Lives

01-01-2007 07:14 PM

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Rod Tshiggfrie.....25 Talon cat.....1300HP.....6A outdrive

http://www.racecrafters.biz/

under "boats for sale"

Not a V-bottom, but I've seen this boat and it was balanced well for it's size.

He used to bring this boat to the Shoot-out but the conditions kept it from reaching top speeds.
He's run this boat in a 1/4 mi drag race and it reached 127 mph. Hang on........

JCPERF

01-01-2007 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tapa11 (Post 1979297)

Would you feel alright with a catamaran boat 36' with 900 hp each side and Konrad's on it doing 150 mph?

p.s. I really have a problem with Mercury"s pricing on a no. 6.

Konrads are a good choice.The #6 is the best and isnt that much more money.I paid 8K for a mint gimbal and wet sump drive that was run in fresh water only used.There are alot of wet sump 6s floating around

cougarman

01-01-2007 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by saxman (Post 1979095)

There is a guy on this board with a 30' checkmate I believe, has a turbo motor in it and runs 115mph+ with it.

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Originally Posted by check300 (Post 1628993)

I have a 30' Checkmate with a #6. We had an extension box made to house the transmission so the engine could stay mounted in a stock Bravo location. It's been an awesome combination.

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Originally Posted by check300 (Post 1235947)

I'm using a BAM Super Cyborg dry sump behind 1500hp with no trans problems. Have over 100 hrs to date.

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Originally Posted by check300 (Post 1197584)

I am currently running a twin turbo 572" BBC. The engine is an EFI setup with Haltech engine management. We are even controlling boost with the Haltech. I ran over 20lbs of boost the last 2 years with no failures. A #6 drive was of course necessary to handle the power. The engine is making 1500 hp. and similar torque. The gear ratio is 1:24 with a 16.5" diameter 27 pitch prop. The boat has no trouble getting on plane. The turbos have water cooled heat shields to control radiant heat. The turbo guru who designed and built most of the system is Tom Earhart.

Bill

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Originally Posted by check300 (Post 1084017)

I have a tranny for my #6 located in the extension box so the engine has not been moved from a stock bravo location.

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Originally Posted by check300 (Post 368535)

Marc built just such a box for my boat. We left the engine in a stock Bravo location and put one of Marc's Super Cyborg Transmissions in the box. Puts the prop about 53" behind the trasom. No more broken drives!

Cougarman

JCPERF

01-01-2007 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cougarman (Post 1979422)

Cougarman

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