Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

NEW SUTPHEN 32, single, or twins great for the ocean rough water boat, 28footer joker check them out if you like rough water running. I was in the sut 32 with 850hp single when they called of the cape race because of winds blowing sea's to rough, I THINK IT WAS 04 WE WERE RUNNING 75GPS NO SWEAT GETTIN AIR FLY STRAIGHT NICE LANDINGS.:D

Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

I think Ciagarettes racing heritage speaks for itself. The "World Champion Race Team" on the side of Cigarettes is well deserved. Cigarette has been in and out of racing and winning world championships longer than anyone else in the game
(though it's been 6 years since they won a world championship).

That being said. I would like to see them on the race course or at least help their racers. But I understand why they dont...They don't need too, they have nothing to prove and there's no money in it.

Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

One of my favorite new hulls out. I think Pat did an outstanding job on that boat.

Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

No argument on the 33 AT, looks like a great boat. If one were looking at 33-34 boats, another boat that would be worth looking at is the 34 saber.:cool:

Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

So the NY Jets should call themselves the World
champion NY Jets because they won a superbowl
in 1968 ? Sorry. Cig builds a great boat,but IMO
you can only call yourself a world champion if you
won in that same year. Not 20 years and 6 owners
ago.
It is a nice looking logo though.

Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

Sorry Neil, didn't mean to hijack your thread.

Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

I was thinkin the same thing, well put!:drink:

Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

Sunsation says World Champion in there logo too.:D

Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

Where is Norty to make a comment about Sunsation not being compared to Formula?............. :D

Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech
 

I understand what you're saying (and knew you were going to say something along those lines). I guess it boils down to personal opinion.

Does Cigarette build "world champion racing boats"?? Yes, no doubt they have.

Does the majority of performance boaters know the racing heritage of Cig? Yes.

Do they have a "world champion racing team" right now? No.

I think if you have a long and distinguished racing history with a proven company/product (like Cigarette) then you should be able to put it on the side of your boat.

I think Apache could put on the side of thier prodect "World Champion Racing Boats". (I can't believe I'm about to say this) Just like I think Fountain has earned the right, though they don't.

Go out and win one or two world championships here and there (where people have to question whether you've ever won one because no one remembers!) No, I don't think that counts. Be a dominant force on the offhore circuit (like fountain has in recent years and Cigarette was for many years past) yea, I think that qualifies.

I guess it comes down to Simantics, "World Champion Racing Boats"? no doubt. "World Champion Racing Team"? Not right this minute, no.

Just my .02