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Old 02-05-2007, 03:33 PM
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Hey guys,

Saw a Sunsation at the Montreal boat show this weekend and decided to learn more... Emailed the company directly and Dave Donchecz, Chief Operating Officer responded.

He said, "Our boat is not the cheapest boat out there but I think it is one of the best built in the market. Our competition is Cigarette,Outerlimits, and Nortech when it comes to an apple to apple comparison."

My first instinct was that they were not comparable... Are they?

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Default Re: Comparable to Cig, Outerlimits, & Nortech

I know they have come a long way since their inception, but I don't think that they have quite made it yet. I don't own one, but the ones I looked at seemed to be a good lake boat, but not a big water boat.

I do hear the customer service is very good though.
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They have stepped up to the plate squarely with the 43' F4 hull, which evolved from the 38' PowerPlay.

Time will tell. I think they have 4 hulls so far; (gaining on the PowerPlay originals ).

I'd like to see how they handle in the rough water (repeatedly).
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I wouldn't think so, and they do seem to be pretty cheap price wise compared to other builders.
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My first instinct was that they were not comparable... Are they?

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Their F4 is quite a machine from multiplexer to 100 mph runs with 700's. Lots of detail and unlike Cigarette you can call the owners 7 days a week. Company has been around since 1982, Fountain started in 79, Cig in 69, NT the 90's I think.

Phil gets 100 MPH from a 42X with 700's and the Sunsation has a/c fridge/ generator on their 43. 42X has cooler, no a/c no genny and is a smaller cabin boat. Nortech needs 3 625's to hit 100. OL runs faster but has less equipment like Cigarette.

I would talk to them in Miami if your coming down and you will definitely be impressed. Donchez has been in the industry forever and was a Cigarette dealer in Texas in the early 90's so he knows the competition well. The F4 just won the V bottom of the year in Extreme boats magazine this month. I haven't been along for an F4 ride but the 38 PP was a solid riding boat and an excellent base to start with.
Their customer service would be comparable to Phil at Lipship and their rigging, fit in finish are definitely in line with the competition so I think you will be digging this thread up in a few years to comment how they are now recognized with the others listed.

The Miami show will have 2 F4's, one Poker Run edition, one standard both rigged with 700's. I think the MSRP for a 43 with 700's is about 600K with generator/trailer as only options.
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Hey guys,

Saw a Sunsation at the Montreal boat show this weekend and decided to learn more... Emailed the company directly and Dave Donchecz, Chief Operating Officer responded.

He said, "Our boat is not the cheapest boat out there but I think it is one of the best built in the market. Our competition is Cigarette,Outerlimits, and Nortech when it comes to an apple to apple comparison."

My first instinct was that they were not comparable... Are they?

Neil
yea rite i have been on all of these boats and a sunsation compared to the other 3 is like comparing a mustang to a ferreri... but what do you expect from the COO of a company... I'm sure Chevy will tell ya that the camaro is a much better car than a Lamborghini
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yea rite i have been on all of these boats and a sunsation compared to the other 3 is like comparing a mustang to a ferreri... but what do you expect from the COO of a company... I'm sure Chevy will tell ya that the camaro is a much better car than a Lamborghini
The F4 has only been at a few shows so far. Where did you see one? You obviously can't compare a 288 496 Mag boat to a 38 TG or NT 50 but I have been on a 39V and you would get embarrassed by an F4 if comparing apples to apples.

Be fair, check the boats out in Miami, they are across from NT's display.

As far as a Chevy vs a Lamborgini, you may want to rethink that analogy since a 500 HP Z06 can embarrass a Gallardo all day long and it can be serviced locally at any GM dealer.
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The F4 has only been at a few shows so far. Where did you see one? You obviously can't compare a 288 496 Mag boat to a 38 TG or NT 50 but I have been on a 39V and you would get embarrassed by an F4 if comparing apples to apples.

Be fair, check the boats out in Miami, they are across from NT's display.

As far as a Chevy vs a Lamborgini, you may want to rethink that analogy since a 500 HP Z06 can embarrass a Gallardo all day long and it can be serviced locally at any GM dealer.
i walked all over the red f4 in loto and trust me unless it goes more than 122mph(not keyboard speed please) it wont upset my 39V and i have rode on the 32 ss and a 32?? with 500's and 496's.. i can post some pics of how well sunsations are built if YOU REALLY WANT ME TO....i was there when one spun out at 50 mph and came apart...let me know on those pics

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i can post some pics of how well sunsations are built if YOU REALLY WANT ME TO....i was there when one spun out at 50 mph and came apart...let me know on those pics

Was it an older model that fell apart?
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