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I hadn't heard of a 308 going over either, the only one I'd heard of I thought was a 28. There are so many factors that are involved with a blow over though and I don't think length of the boat is a primary factor in most cases. To me it's more dependent on setup, and to a much larger extent conditions and operation.
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Originally Posted by mlb75
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I hadn't heard of a 308 going over either, the only one I'd heard of I thought was a 28. There are so many factors that are involved with a blow over though and I don't think length of the boat is a primary factor in most cases. To me it's more dependent on setup, and to a much larger extent conditions and operation.
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There was a 308 that ended up upside down. However it was not a blow over but the boat kited and hit on a sponson. Hooked and rolled up on the rub rail. Eventually ended up over. That being said and owning a 308 with 300x motors anyone that thinks these O/B powered cats are safe with 400r's hanging on the back without some serious consideration in rigging and CG are safe are sadly mistaken. I know what it takes to keep my bow down in the real world with 200lbs less hanging on the transom. Watch some of the runs from LOTO. Yes they turn big numbers strung out over miles and being light you better be on your toes for any unforeseen wind, waves etc. One builder already recognized the issue and made changes to their bottoms already to provide a safer running hull. However with that comes a price and slower speeds.
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Originally Posted by Double Rigged
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There was a 308 that ended up upside down. However it was not a blow over but the boat kited and hit on a sponson. Hooked and rolled up on the rub rail. Eventually ended up over. That being said and owning a 308 with 300x motors anyone that thinks these O/B powered cats are safe with 400r's hanging on the back without some serious consideration in rigging and CG are safe are sadly mistaken. I know what it takes to keep my bow down in the real world with 200lbs less hanging on the transom. Watch some of the runs from LOTO. Yes they turn big numbers strung out over miles and being light you better be on your toes for any unforeseen wind, waves etc. One builder already recognized the issue and made changes to their bottoms already to provide a safer running hull. However with that comes a price and slower speeds.
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Originally Posted by Double Rigged
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There was a 308 that ended up upside down. However it was not a blow over but the boat kited and hit on a sponson. Hooked and rolled up on the rub rail. Eventually ended up over. That being said and owning a 308 with 300x motors anyone that thinks these O/B powered cats are safe with 400r's hanging on the back without some serious consideration in rigging and CG are safe are sadly mistaken. I know what it takes to keep my bow down in the real world with 200lbs less hanging on the transom. Watch some of the runs from LOTO. Yes they turn big numbers strung out over miles and being light you better be on your toes for any unforeseen wind, waves etc. One builder already recognized the issue and made changes to their bottoms already to provide a safer running hull. However with that comes a price and slower speeds.
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Originally Posted by Double Rigged
(Post 4590033)
There was a 308 that ended up upside down. However it was not a blow over but the boat kited and hit on a sponson. Hooked and rolled up on the rub rail. Eventually ended up over. That being said and owning a 308 with 300x motors anyone that thinks these O/B powered cats are safe with 400r's hanging on the back without some serious consideration in rigging and CG are safe are sadly mistaken. I know what it takes to keep my bow down in the real world with 200lbs less hanging on the transom. Watch some of the runs from LOTO. Yes they turn big numbers strung out over miles and being light you better be on your toes for any unforeseen wind, waves etc. One builder already recognized the issue and made changes to their bottoms already to provide a safer running hull. However with that comes a price and slower speeds.
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Precision
I would rather leave that up to them to comment. Being in the industry and dealing with all kinds of boat builders you see and here a lot. I do not proclaim to be an expert and respect how much time and effort boat builders put into their products. As you know there is a lot of competition out there now and they are all working hard. Good news is it makes all have better products. Regarding speed I can say that my boat can lose 3-4 mph if I set it up conservatively for rough water |
Originally Posted by Double Rigged
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Precision
I would rather leave that up to them to comment. Being in the industry and dealing with all kinds of boat builders you see and here a lot. I do not proclaim to be an expert and respect how much time and effort boat builders put into their products. As you know there is a lot of competition out there now and they are all working hard. Good news is it makes all have better products. Regarding speed I can say that my boat can lose 3-4 mph if I set it up conservatively for rough water |
Nice :cool:
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I really like my boats to run 20% faster than I would run. I feel the engines will last longer. I don't run my truck wot.
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It would be nice to see some updates on the WB w/ 400s. Finished interior? Maybe some test numbers?
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Hey Joe, the interior is taking a bit longer than expected. It seems that the interior is in its final leg of assembly. I'm curious too as to how the WB will perform with the additional weight of a full interior. I also asked the owner to video tape the whole test run....we'll see. I post them as I get them...no sugar coating on any performance numbers! . |
Originally Posted by noli
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Hey Joe, the interior is taking a bit longer than expected. It seems that the interior is in its final leg of assembly. I'm curious too as to how the WB will perform with the additional weight of a full interior. I also asked the owner to video tape the whole test run....we'll see. I post them as I get them...no sugar coating on any performance numbers! . |
Nice!!
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Originally Posted by noli
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Hey Joe, the interior is taking a bit longer than expected. It seems that the interior is in its final leg of assembly. I'm curious too as to how the WB will perform with the additional weight of a full interior. I also asked the owner to video tape the whole test run....we'll see. I post them as I get them...no sugar coating on any performance numbers! . |
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CRT offering 450HP outboard motor
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Predator Powerboats is very excited to offer CRT motors capable of running 450HP on their 30 foot widebody cat https://farm1.staticflickr.com/838/4...1966880c_b.jpg |
, 600HP CRT outboard motor is imminent
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Safety cell and air-conditioned canopy for those hot summer months. Widebody Canopy C30 https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...44ef97c05e.png https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...bd5f6f07be.png |
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V25CC MAS M - maximum space A - affordable S - simple https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...bf409bab52.jpg Built OCean Tough . |
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Desert Storm 2018...Thank you SpeedOnTheWater for a great pic! Flat Deck.....windshield by Lee Aerospace C306 widebody....500R where are you? 62 inche tunnel opening....Big Mouth! https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c5c21d8ed8.jpg |
said it before . . . and I'll say it again . . . tbat 30 Predator is one fun friggin boat. Got to check out the wide body some day :cool:
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Predator getting covered by PandG Canvas https://farm1.staticflickr.com/875/2...067ff248_b.jpg https://farm1.staticflickr.com/896/4...3c407998_k.jpg . |
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Care to go boating by yourself without all the cleaning and other "helpers"? The Predator V21 is just the ticket. With a single outboard and 4 stroke 300R motor, you can be in the water in no time, have a personal roadster with all the modern electronics. When the day is done and you start the cleaning chores, you'll be done in no time and put-away very quickly. This is what Arnaldo at Predator Powerboats aims in achieving with his latest 90+MPH 21 foot v-hul. All-Vacuum bagged and offshore capable. When its time to rest, the 21 can be easily beached and in a few minutes you're laying down in the sand....lazily looking at your 21 swaying with the wind. https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1795/...0f6909ea_b.jpg |
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