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mlb75 10-25-2017 11:53 AM

I hadn't heard of a 308 going over either, the only one I'd heard of I thought was a 28. There are so many factors that are involved with a blow over though and I don't think length of the boat is a primary factor in most cases. To me it's more dependent on setup, and to a much larger extent conditions and operation.

iamjoe 10-25-2017 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by mlb75 (Post 4590014)
I hadn't heard of a 308 going over either, the only one I'd heard of I thought was a 28. There are so many factors that are involved with a blow over though and I don't think length of the boat is a primary factor in most cases. To me it's more dependent on setup, and to a much larger extent conditions and operation.

I'm sure I saw a vid of a 308 that was converted to 400s. It was a white boat. It happened early this year as I recall.

Double Rigged 10-25-2017 01:44 PM

There was a 308 that ended up upside down. However it was not a blow over but the boat kited and hit on a sponson. Hooked and rolled up on the rub rail. Eventually ended up over. That being said and owning a 308 with 300x motors anyone that thinks these O/B powered cats are safe with 400r's hanging on the back without some serious consideration in rigging and CG are safe are sadly mistaken. I know what it takes to keep my bow down in the real world with 200lbs less hanging on the transom. Watch some of the runs from LOTO. Yes they turn big numbers strung out over miles and being light you better be on your toes for any unforeseen wind, waves etc. One builder already recognized the issue and made changes to their bottoms already to provide a safer running hull. However with that comes a price and slower speeds.

kaama82 10-26-2017 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 4590033)
There was a 308 that ended up upside down. However it was not a blow over but the boat kited and hit on a sponson. Hooked and rolled up on the rub rail. Eventually ended up over. That being said and owning a 308 with 300x motors anyone that thinks these O/B powered cats are safe with 400r's hanging on the back without some serious consideration in rigging and CG are safe are sadly mistaken. I know what it takes to keep my bow down in the real world with 200lbs less hanging on the transom. Watch some of the runs from LOTO. Yes they turn big numbers strung out over miles and being light you better be on your toes for any unforeseen wind, waves etc. One builder already recognized the issue and made changes to their bottoms already to provide a safer running hull. However with that comes a price and slower speeds.

Well said..

iamjoe 10-26-2017 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 4590033)
There was a 308 that ended up upside down. However it was not a blow over but the boat kited and hit on a sponson. Hooked and rolled up on the rub rail. Eventually ended up over. That being said and owning a 308 with 300x motors anyone that thinks these O/B powered cats are safe with 400r's hanging on the back without some serious consideration in rigging and CG are safe are sadly mistaken. I know what it takes to keep my bow down in the real world with 200lbs less hanging on the transom. Watch some of the runs from LOTO. Yes they turn big numbers strung out over miles and being light you better be on your toes for any unforeseen wind, waves etc. One builder already recognized the issue and made changes to their bottoms already to provide a safer running hull. However with that comes a price and slower speeds.

That's what I'm thinking. The advertised speeds on the WB are in the low 120s on 400s and 115 on 300s. I'm an old guy so I don't need to run 120 or even 115. It just seems that a boat of this length would be over-cooked w/ 400s. I'm absolutely stunned that there is only a $22K difference between the 2. I was expecting $30K to $35K. I just think the 300s on the WB hull would be as efficient and fast and most boats in the sport cat class.

precisiondetails 10-26-2017 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 4590033)
There was a 308 that ended up upside down. However it was not a blow over but the boat kited and hit on a sponson. Hooked and rolled up on the rub rail. Eventually ended up over. That being said and owning a 308 with 300x motors anyone that thinks these O/B powered cats are safe with 400r's hanging on the back without some serious consideration in rigging and CG are safe are sadly mistaken. I know what it takes to keep my bow down in the real world with 200lbs less hanging on the transom. Watch some of the runs from LOTO. Yes they turn big numbers strung out over miles and being light you better be on your toes for any unforeseen wind, waves etc. One builder already recognized the issue and made changes to their bottoms already to provide a safer running hull. However with that comes a price and slower speeds.

Which builder do you speak of? And what were the results? Just how much slower?

Double Rigged 10-26-2017 06:19 PM

Precision
I would rather leave that up to them to comment. Being in the industry and dealing with all kinds of boat builders you see and here a lot. I do not proclaim to be an expert and respect how much time and effort boat builders put into their products. As you know there is a lot of competition out there now and they are all working hard. Good news is it makes all have better products.
Regarding speed I can say that my boat can lose 3-4 mph if I set it up conservatively for rough water

precisiondetails 10-26-2017 06:30 PM


Originally Posted by Double Rigged (Post 4590344)
Precision
I would rather leave that up to them to comment. Being in the industry and dealing with all kinds of boat builders you see and here a lot. I do not proclaim to be an expert and respect how much time and effort boat builders put into their products. As you know there is a lot of competition out there now and they are all working hard. Good news is it makes all have better products.
Regarding speed I can say that my boat can lose 3-4 mph if I set it up conservatively for rough water

Oh I hear ya. Yes and understand that you won’t say.

SanFranJeff 11-14-2017 01:00 PM

Nice :cool:

noli 12-24-2017 06:36 PM

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