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Panther 07-19-2007 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by rainmn (Post 2203685)
Not entirely true. I live in Manahawkin, and spend a lot of time on the island. Over the last few years I've seen just as many NY plates as PA plates here.

It's crazy how the city sprall has taken over..... It seems like Ocean County is well on its way to what nothern Monmouth county was like 15-20 yrs ago.

When I was a kid there were 1-2 New Yorkers in my neighborhood, we were labled the "bad" kids because of it. Now I live in Middletown again 10 yrs later and half my neighbors are from Staten Island and Brooklyn. The area sure has changed over the years but it's all good. :drink:

It looks like they're all heading further south these days, which is great news for us up here! :evilb: :evilb:

rainmn 07-19-2007 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by Lucididee (Post 2203703)
I don't usually got past Point on land, nor past Barnegat Inlet on water. That why I can't comment much on the South Jersey Shore.

What do you consider Manahawkin, North or South Jersey Shore? You're like the very beginning of what I consider the heart of the south Jersey Shore. You're closer to AC expressway, thus Philly, as I'm closer to NYC. Up here is all NJ/NY plates. But, for the most part, AC and south is either PA or Canadians. I lived in North Wildwood for 1 year. I had to get the hell outta there. It was horrible. I had to get back north. I moved to Atlantic Highlands and worked in Bayonne.

But this question definately seperates the North from the South. Are you and Eagles fan or a Giants/Jets fan? And if you're not a fan of those teams, which would you rather see loose than? I'm a Raiders fan, but I HATE the Eagles. I'm definately North Jersey Shore.

Jets fan....but I grew up in North Jersey (Linden.) I didn't move down here full-time until 4 years ago.

As for "North / South Jersey shore", I would call LBI the border. Lots of people from North Jersey have houses on the island, but once you get further south that happens less and less.

Panther 07-19-2007 11:16 AM

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And I always considered where I live (Middletown, Monmouth Cty) to be Central Jersey, not north or south. :drink:

Plus, I trained myself that if you are 609, you're south.

732 is central, 201/973 north!

I also remember when I was younger that we had a 201 area code, then it became 732.....

Damn area has grown a lot!

berns29scarab 07-19-2007 11:59 AM

edison and up is north jersey, bayville and down is south jersey and everything inbetween is central...just my .02

Panther 07-19-2007 12:28 PM

For me, anything over the Driscol bridge is North and anything 609 is south. ;) But I guess we're splitting hairs!

To make things fair, the GSP is what, roughly 165-170 miles. I guess we can draw the mason dixon line right about at mile marker 85 :eek: But central NJ would be roughly mile markers 60 - 114. :)

So Stecz is still a Benny!

rainmn 07-19-2007 12:33 PM

I'm on the same page as you guys with the North / Central / Southern Jersey splits.

In my post above, I was answering Dee's question about what I considered the "Northern Jersey Shore" vs. the "Southern Jersey Shore", which I never really thought about before. :D

Can we split hairs any further now? :D

This thread has got to be in contention for the worst hijacking ever. :evilb:

Panther 07-19-2007 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by rainmn (Post 2203983)
This thread has got to be in contention for the worst hijacking ever. :evilb:

But it was fun while it lasted!!! :evilb: :evilb: :drink:

docmanrich37 07-19-2007 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by rainmn (Post 2203983)
I'm on the same page as you guys with the North / Central / Southern Jersey splits.

In my post above, I was answering Dee's question about what I considered the "Northern Jersey Shore" vs. the "Southern Jersey Shore", which I never really thought about before. :D

Can we split hairs any further now? :D

This thread has got to be in contention for the worst hijacking ever. :evilb:

Its the power of OSO we talk about things that have nothing to do with the thread at all.BTW I do like seeing some of the 80's prom pics.:D Thanks for all the info I have received from some of you.Carry on but post more pics.

GoFastSonic 07-19-2007 12:54 PM

I'm as far south in Ocean County as you can go - Exit 58. I grew up in Egg Harbor Township, just outside AC. Love the Giants - Go Big Blue!! Have always been a 609er. So I guess that makes me a Southern Jersey Piney Girl :eek: LOL

Ron P 07-19-2007 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by GoFastSonic (Post 2204013)
So I guess that makes me a Southern Jersey Piney Girl :eek: LOL

Yup!:drink:

Ron P 07-19-2007 01:04 PM

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Make sure you get over to Jenkinsons on the Point Pleasant Boardwalk. See in background with blue roof.

If you see fire on the water, its just Jetset playing around.

Panther 07-19-2007 01:09 PM


Originally Posted by docmanrich37 (Post 2204009)
Its the power of OSO we talk about things that have nothing to do with the thread at all.BTW I do like seeing some of the 80's prom pics.:D Thanks for all the info I have received from some of you.Carry on but post more pics.

Oh yeah, the topic of the thread.... LOL

There is a guy who does the lifts at our marina, his name is Jimmy Black, but I don't know his company name. He may be someone worthy of getting in touch with. I think we have close to a dozen lifts on our dock.

If you have some time give our marina a shout and ask them if they can put you in touch with him, ask for Eddie or Brett and tell them "Frank with the Apache" referred you. 732-842-3700

See post #7 in this thread; http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=162999


Frank

mr_velocity 07-19-2007 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2204040)
Oh yeah, the topic of the thread.... LOL

There is a guy who does the lifts at our marina, his name is Jimmy Black, but I don't know his company name. He may be someone worthy of getting in touch with. I think we have close to a dozen lifts on our dock.

If you have some time give our marina a shout and ask them if they can put you in touch with him, ask for Eddie or Brett and tell them "Frank with the Apache" referred you. 732-842-3700

See post #7 in this thread; http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=162999


Frank


Jim Black and Neil Houghs H&B Marine 732-277-8179. They worked for me doing installs then I turned the biz over to them and went boat racing. Good guys. Can't say I miss dealing in lifts but if you have any questions let me know. There are some good companies and some bad companies. If you're gonna shop make sure you get a 10 year warranty.

Wonder who installed those lifts at Navo :rolleyes:

sakoutis3 07-19-2007 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by mr_velocity (Post 2204082)
Wonder who installed those lifts at Navo :rolleyes:

Thats why Panthers never works.:eek: :drink:

docmanrich37 07-19-2007 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by Panther (Post 2204040)
Oh yeah, the topic of the thread.... LOL

There is a guy who does the lifts at our marina, his name is Jimmy Black, but I don't know his company name. He may be someone worthy of getting in touch with. I think we have close to a dozen lifts on our dock.

If you have some time give our marina a shout and ask them if they can put you in touch with him, ask for Eddie or Brett and tell them "Frank with the Apache" referred you. 732-842-3700

See post #7 in this thread; http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=162999


Frank


Thanks Frank for the lead.Maybe I'll see you up there for a tasty beverage.:drink:




Originally Posted by mr_velocity (Post 2204082)
Jim Black and Neil Houghs H&B Marine 732-277-8179. They worked for me doing installs then I turned the biz over to them and went boat racing. Good guys. Can't say I miss dealing in lifts but if you have any questions let me know. There are some good companies and some bad companies. If you're gonna shop make sure you get a 10 year warranty.

Wonder who installed those lifts at Navo :rolleyes:

Mr.V I selling boat lift drive units.Take a look at them on my website.They are fast as hell. www.perfectsystems.biz

Panther 07-19-2007 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by docmanrich37 (Post 2204106)
Thanks Frank for the lead.Maybe I'll see you up there for a tasty beverage.:drink:

I'll send you a PM, give me a shout if you're comin up! :drink:

mr_velocity 07-19-2007 03:35 PM


Originally Posted by docmanrich37 (Post 2204106)
Thanks Frank for the lead.Maybe I'll see you up there for a tasty beverage.:drink:


Mr.V I selling boat lift drive units.Take a look at them on my website.They are fast as hell. www.perfectsystems.biz

gotta set them up as direct drive, no belt. My 3 lifts are old and still chain drive. The newer Hi-Tide lifts are all direct drive, one of these days I'll call the factory and do an upgrade.....yea been saying that for years but it never happens. My 16,000# lift is now 15 years old. Other than cables its been flawless.

All the lifts that are chain drive at Panther's Marina I put in single handed, except for the very first one when I had the help of a Jersey Pirate. One or two of the direct drive lifts were done by a guy from Brick. The rest were done by H&B. I never did any of the pile work, H&B does pile work.

I have to scan a pic of a lift I was called in to fix in Rumson, ya know some people will nickle and dime you then go really cheap. I told him I could replace the lift but would not fix the crap he put in, he should went with me in the first place. I like the fix when the pole started to sink

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8063/badliftwz9.jpg

Panther 07-19-2007 03:46 PM

Mr_V, Maybe he'll give you a demo so you can see how it works..... But you don't install em anymore, so maybe Jimmy would like to see it! :drink:

docmanrich37 07-19-2007 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by mr_velocity (Post 2204225)
gotta set them up as direct drive, no belt. My 3 lifts are old and still chain drive. The newer Hi-Tide lifts are all direct drive, one of these days I'll call the factory and do an upgrade.....yea been saying that for years but it never happens. My 16,000# lift is now 15 years old. Other than cables its been flawless.

All the lifts that are chain drive at Panther's Marina I put in single handed, except for the very first one when I had the help of a Jersey Pirate. One or two of the direct drive lifts were done by a guy from Brick. The rest were done by H&B. I never did any of the pile work, H&B does pile work.

I have to scan a pic of a lift I was called in to fix in Rumson, ya know some people will nickle and dime you then go really cheap. I told him I could replace the lift but would not fix the crap he put in, he should went with me in the first place. I like the fix when the pole started to sink

http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8063/badliftwz9.jpg

Actually Hi-Tide uses my PSI drive and order more then any other customer.To each he's own.If you remember when your in biz that the customer always wants the cheap to cheaper product.Direct drives are twice the price as the PSI drives.

mr_velocity 07-19-2007 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by docmanrich37 (Post 2204274)
Actually Hi-Tide uses my PSI drive and order more then any other customer.To each he's own.If you remember when your in biz that the customer always wants the cheap to cheaper product.Direct drives are twice the price as the PSI drives.

Yup on their Baracuda lift, never installed one. I have to say your PSI drive is a huge improvement over the flat plate drive they used to use on that lift. I only installed their top of the line product, Ro-Lift at the time now its the gear drive. You're right, people want cheap cheap cheap and those people were not my customers. Then again I've been woken up at 6am on a weekend to do a quick service so a customer could get the boat off the lift. Problem was the marina cut the wires to the outside motor when they chopped the ice over the winter. Not my problem but I still went out to take care of him, that's what people were paying for. Panther knows that drill with wires being cut and him picking up the tab :( You can see from the pics I posted above what happens when you go too cheap.

No doubt if Hi-Tide is using your product it's first rate. They always stood behind their product, no questions asked. I lost touch with the company with Rich Greene passed.

docmanrich37 07-19-2007 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by mr_velocity (Post 2204370)
Yup on their Baracuda lift, never installed one. I have to say your PSI drive is a huge improvement over the flat plate drive they used to use on that lift. I only installed their top of the line product, Ro-Lift at the time now its the gear drive. You're right, people want cheap cheap cheap and those people were not my customers. Then again I've been woken up at 6am on a weekend to do a quick service so a customer could get the boat off the lift. Problem was the marina cut the wires to the outside motor when they chopped the ice over the winter. Not my problem but I still went out to take care of him, that's what people were paying for. Panther knows that drill with wires being cut and him picking up the tab :( You can see from the pics I posted above what happens when you go too cheap.

No doubt if Hi-Tide is using your product it's first rate. They always stood behind their product, no questions asked. I lost touch with the company with Rich Greene passed.

Been there and done that kind of service calls.Once you have the PSI unit you will never go back to a flat plate.
I installed 2 for Activeshack here on OSO and he's other flat plates went up about 24" a minute and made all kinds of noise.After the PSI went on I measured it for 1 minute and it was 55" a min. and quite as a mouse.It sells it self.

Expensive Date 07-19-2007 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by JoeD (Post 2203653)
"areas of use" manahawkin HMMMMMMM --- I live in north jersey year round but I own a home in (not a bungalow)in Manahawkin , I pay taxes in both towns (aprox. the same amt.), I dont litter in either area or destroy property-----so why am I still a B E N N Y ?

Actually thats nicer than being called a Piney:evilb:

Expensive Date 07-19-2007 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by berns29scarab (Post 2203922)
edison and up is north jersey, bayville and down is south jersey and everything inbetween is central...just my .02


Not if you ask the Pineys in West Creek they think anything above rt 72 is north Jersey

Lucididee 07-19-2007 08:28 PM


Originally Posted by Expensive Date (Post 2204488)
Not if you ask the Pineys in West Creek they think anything above rt 72 is north Jersey

I hear ya there, when I lived in North Wildwood and worked in North Cape May, they considered Middletown North Jersey. As where I guy a used to date from West Caldwell, he considered Middletown South Jersey. And damn, if you say Central Jersey, they all reply "Oh, you're from Trenton?"

Jersey people are very sensitive to the North, Central and South Jersey status. I just say that I live at the beginning of the Jersey Shore. That usually throws them for a loop.

Lucididee 07-19-2007 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by rainmn (Post 2203685)
Not entirely true. I live in Manahawkin, and spend a lot of time on the island. Over the last few years I've seen just as many NY plates as PA plates here.

I'm not disagreeing with you. And not saying that you don't get both. Just that the Jersey Shore trend seems to move south but not north. So you get more New Yorkers but we're not getting the PA people up this way. Kinda like the term "Shoobies" I never heard that term before cause we don't get them up this way.

mr_velocity 07-19-2007 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by sakoutis3 (Post 2204104)
Thats why Panthers never works.:eek: :drink:


Its not the lift its the chitty wiring that the marina provided. Go take a look at the breaker pannel, don't be surprised when that whole dock goes poof. :eek:

firstoffshore 07-19-2007 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Superboat502 (Post 2201531)
Yea were overrun with Benny's this time of year, and its just as bad out on the water. All the idiots with summer house think they can buy a SeaRay and a jetski and do what ever they please out on the Bay most learn in a short period of time that this isn't the case, but some one has to keep seatow in business.:evilb:

They keep us in business too...we are the Sea Ray dealer in Brick :D

Smarty 07-20-2007 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by Lucididee (Post 2204564)
I'm not disagreeing with you. And not saying that you don't get both. Just that the Jersey Shore trend seems to move south but not north. So you get more New Yorkers but we're not getting the PA people up this way. Kinda like the term "Shoobies" I never heard that term before cause we don't get them up this way.

That "shoobies" term is a Philly/South Jersey thing. I am in that 856 area code. I only knew of the Benny-Guido term from going to Pt. Pleasant as a kid in the to watch the races, and I read that on the bathroom wall of a restaurant up there - "Benny-Guidos go home" I was wondering WTF that was referring to, but I soon learned.

As far as the trend, I go southeast when going to the beach, or visiting friends Ocean City, Stone Harbor, and Cape May or my destinations now. As you get to your 40's your beach/vacation destinations change (for me at least).

But, I will be in Wall Twp (for court with a client) on Tuesday, I am sure that the court is no different than any other court I attend, the defendants on the other hand may be ???? This will be my first appearance in the Wall Twp court (this is too close to Brick-Tucky):D

Panther 07-20-2007 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Smarty (Post 2204914)
But, I will be in Wall Twp (for court with a client) on Tuesday, I am sure that the court is no different than any other court I attend, the defendants on the other hand may be ???? This will be my first appearance in the Wall Twp court (this is too close to Brick-Tucky):D

That just happened to be the courthouse I went to when I had my I-195 infraction.... :eek: :drink:

Smarty 07-20-2007 09:33 AM

Panther,

No racing the cops, no need for court, lol. That is a good story/experience you have from an entertainment perspective.

I got ya covered if you ever have to go back to Wall Twp. court.

SHARKEY-IMAGES 07-22-2007 10:59 PM


Originally Posted by Lucididee (Post 2202674)
Oh believe me I know. He's actually in Middletown now (Red Bank mailing), off of Navesink-River Road. UUUUUUUUuummmmm, I live in Red Bank and I boat alot on the Navesink River. I think :rolleyes: I know exactly where he lives :p

The Front
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/4_07045c.jpg


The Back shot from a street in Fair Haven :eek:
http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m...s/4_07050c.jpg

Iggy 07-23-2007 05:28 AM

Back in the 70's -80's when I lived in Toms River I used to hate the yearly influx of summer tourists. I hardly ever went to the beach beacuse of all the traffic on RT37. Couldn't wait for all the Bennies to go home.
So we moved to Floida. I figued the tourist traffic couldn't be any worse than Jersey. HA!!! Boy, was I wrong. Driving to and from Seaside in the summer is a piece of cake compaired to this. And it never stops. Tourists come every day. Picture the usual Saturday traffic heading to Seaside in July and multiply that by twenty. That's what we get 365 days a year.

sakoutis3 07-23-2007 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by mr_velocity (Post 2204566)
Its not the lift its the chitty wiring that the marina provided. Go take a look at the breaker pannel, don't be surprised when that whole dock goes poof. :eek:

I'm not touchin that panel:eek: Anything over 24 volts i'm:chick: :chick: Especialy around all that water.

Panther 07-23-2007 08:34 AM


Originally Posted by sharkeymarine (Post 2207165)
The Front
The Back shot from a street in Fair Haven

I could be wrong but I think that's Madonna's house. :confused: I just live here, I don't follow the paparazzi's. :drink:

Lots of nice houses up here on the Navesink/Shrewsbury rivers. The Barnegat boys ought to take the trip up here some time! :drink: :rolleyes: http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=162999

Whitney Houston and Bobby Brown had a house on the river for a while, Madonna, Ray Catena, Heraldo had one a while back and you would see him jogging in the AM, the guy who owns Sipper Stiens (has a bowling alley in his basement), Bobby Bonilla (spelling), the chick that was married to Tommy Lee (blonde haired chick) and a host of others. Helicopters taking people to work in the city in the AM. :eek:

Panther 07-23-2007 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by sakoutis3 (Post 2207394)
I'm not touchin that panel:eek: Anything over 24 volts i'm:chick: Especialy around all that water.

I don't blame you.... I make the sign of the cross before going into the panel! :eek:

Oh yeah, the panel you have on A-Dock with the rest of the cabin cruisers and condo's :eek: is all new stuff so you're good to go!:drink:


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